New type of lead acid battery: with silicone wafers

[profdant139]

I'm not competent to evaluate the merits of this new product, but it is thought-provoking:

Manufacturer's website

I don't know if they are already working on a battery suitable for RVs, but they claim that the device is "scalable." Does that mean both up and down the scale?

[MEXICOWANDERER]

"What?
Can't see their feet?"

[TurnThePage]

2oldman wrote:

DrewE wrote:
Silicone, on the other hand, is the rubbery stuff used as a sealant or for flexible spatulas and bowl scrapers.

Silicone valley is just down the street from silicon valley.

:B

[3_tons]

Mex, Love your latest sage analogy Sir, keep ‘em coming !!

3 tons

[MEXICOWANDERER]

It's the

EAT MORE

EAT RICHER

WEIGH LESS

EAT LESS OFTEN

Ambiguities that counter common sense.

Plates encompassed by razor-thin permeable silicon separators would allow tighter packing meaning more plate material meaning higher energy density. Less material can produce higher energy when surface area is increased -- at the cost of longevity.

Stuff like this reminds me of Arnold Schwarzenegger straining to pulley pull the immense log up into the air via pulley in The Terminator.

[2oldman]

DrewE wrote:
Silicone, on the other hand, is the rubbery stuff used as a sealant or for flexible spatulas and bowl scrapers.

Silicone valley is just down the street from silicon valley.

[DrewE]

Just to be clear, they're talking about silicon wafers, not silicone wafers. The chemicals have vastly different properties, despite their names only differing with a final letter e. A crystal of silicon forms the substrate that solar cells and computer chips are made on; it is a stiff and brittle material. Silicone, on the other hand, is the rubbery stuff used as a sealant or for flexible spatulas and bowl scrapers.

[StirCrazy]

I went to the webpage, very stark with actual infomation, and in most of there upmost basice comparasons they fit inbetween normal AGM batteries and LI (they don't say what kind of Li though) would have been nice to see some actualy numbers but the only numbers they put out was for a very low capacity 6V battery.

would be interesting to see some actual info but maybe its just to new. there should be several new types of batterys in the near future as everyone is racing to come up with the newest and greatest batter you power all the electric cars we will all be buying.

Steve

[3_tons]

BFL13 wrote:
Ha! 3 tons gets in a shot against PT for revealing his politics! 🙂 (which I do not share, but means nothing on this forum)

Meanwhile 3 tons, having bought into LFP, is "more Catholic than the pope" on that topic, so we adjust accordingly.

BTW "attacking" false LFP advertising is not attacking LFPs. Big difference!

LFPs have their place in the spectrum, but are not for everyone. Saying that, or calling out false advertising, does not mean you should be burned at the stake.

Huh??.... Most folks who are informed here in the lower 48 are quite aware of Alberta’s sizable contribution to our northern neighbor’s treasury (no secret about this) and with a boon of Lithium ahead their future, I would think that this attribute is something for all Canadians and the entire World to embrace - we need your Lithium!!

For the record, my view is that Canada is a Great beautiful neighbor that America is most fortunate to have, this in far more ways than just trade...

FWIW, I’ll always support attacks on false advertising, in fact this is why I’ve repeatedly asked for independent white papers!! Nor have I ever even ONCE claimed that LFP’s are for everyone, but if I must I’ll again restate because they are NOT.... BTW, no need to ‘impute’ (e.g. guess) the positions, politics, religiosity or motives of others...My PM is always available, even for touchy hot-topic questions, though my responses may be limited to a simple Yes or a No - lol

3 tons

[BFL13]

Ha! 3 tons gets in a shot against PT for revealing his politics! 🙂 (which I do not share, but means nothing on this forum)

Meanwhile 3 tons, having bought into LFP, is "more Catholic than the pope" on that topic, so we adjust accordingly.

BTW "attacking" false LFP advertising is not attacking LFPs. Big difference!

LFPs have their place in the spectrum, but are not for everyone. Saying that, or calling out false advertising, does not mean you should be burned at the stake (especially for the "enhanced" version where they used wet wood if they really didn't like you!)

[3_tons]

Well, the world’s Lithium supply is not infinite, though they seem to be developing another big Li mine in Canada’s wealth production region of Alberta...

3 tons

[bgum]

Jim Varney died in White House Tn.

[Gjac]

It sounds like they are plating the lead over a light weight plastic substrate. Seams like it would be cheaper to mfg and lighter. Didn't Jim Varney die after he went to Washington?

[wa8yxm]

Generally "Scalable" means up but can also mean down.

If this works and is not a whole lot more expensive it may put traditional lead acid out to pasture (It won't put the companies out of business because I suspect it can be made on the same machines) If you can pack say 85 AH into say half the weight I might pick up a few feet per gallon on the old MPG chart.

[MEXICOWANDERER]

Coated silicone solar wafers? Rubber Baby Buggy Bumpers. Less lead means more CCA and cycles.

A Jim Varney interlude