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Keith_Haw
Explorer
Explorer
I didn't want to hijack anyones tread so figured I'd ask here. I've heard a lot of talk about replacing the regular tv booster wall plate with the new Sensar Pro and have read it's a direct replacement. But the question I keep coming up with is , where do you connect the tv coax cable? All the pictures I've seen don't show a connection for the tv output.

We have an older 2007 Thor Wave TT and the OTA isn't all that good, and we watch it a lot more than the dish. I realize I'll probably wind up having to replace the batwing/wingman also but figured I'd start here first.
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Bill_Satellite
Explorer II
Explorer II
A lot of difficult and confusing information here. Even wa8yxm says my post is wrong and then exactly describes what I said needs to be done as the correct way.
You CAN use the existing coax cable to power your satellite receiver but you CANNOT do that if that cable first runs to the cable input on the back of your Sensar Pro (or standard wall plate).
It just takes a simple A/B switch to modify the connection and allow that one cable to handle both purposes but it does require a modification.
What I post is my 2 cents and nothing more. Please don't read anything into my post that's not there. If you disagree, that's OK.
Can't we all just get along?

Big_Katuna
Explorer II
Explorer II
Well, that's my point! What a PITA to try to run new cable from outside to your AV area.
Especially since the factory cable works perfectly well. Even the Directv website states that the big advantage of SWM IS BEING ABLE TO RUN 6-12 boxes on existing cable!!! Their tests aren't frequency/attenuation based; they test RESISTANCE to assure that it can handle the PI load.

You DO NOT need to run a new run unless your existing cable is faulty.

Bad advice.
My Kharma ran over my Dogma.

Keith_Haw
Explorer
Explorer
I've had the dish work through a splitter back when my dad was alive and lived with us, for his dish box. But that said, I like the idea of running a separate dedicated RG6 with outside hookup for it. Wish I was up to running all new RG6 up to the roof mount antenna but that might be a little more than I'm willing to tackle.

Big_Katuna
Explorer II
Explorer II
I have a 99% SWM SIGNAL THRU MY RE-purposed factory cable wiring. I split it up front and diplex the sat sig and Sensar ant sig to the rear sat box (40' coach) diplexer at the rear and still have the same SWM level as I do upfront.
And I have had my dish over 100' away from the RV.

So there.
My Kharma ran over my Dogma.

wa8yxm
Explorer III
Explorer III
Right Sat won't work through the booster plate. It also does not work through a multi switch, splitter or any device other than the cable and bulkhead connectors.

But Winegard explains how to re-task the park cable as a sat lead... I do not suggest doing that, I suggest putting dedicated RG-6 and quality at that.

Sat may work fine with the el-cheapo lowest bidder stuff,, but will work better with quality cable.
Home was where I park it. but alas the.
2005 Damon Intruder 377 Alas declared a total loss
after a semi "nicked" it. Still have the radios
Kenwood TS-2000, ICOM ID-5100, ID-51A+2, ID-880 REF030C most times

Keith_Haw
Explorer
Explorer
My sat works good on the cable that was factory, I guess, but wont work through the booster plate. Always figured the plate was a direct pass through when the booster wasn't turned on. But running new RG6 is a good idea being I'm going to be doing the work anyway, and it's only about 6' or so. But I do think I'm going to have to use some kind of splitter with one output to the Sensar Pro cable input and the other direct to the Dish box.

wa8yxm
Explorer III
Explorer III
Bill.Satellite wrote:
You will also not be able to use an outside cable connection to power a satellite antenna if you use the Sensar Pro. However, you can add an A/B switch to that coax end where your current power supply is (or where the Sensar Pro will be) and send one output from the A/B to the Sensar and the other output to the satellite receiver and that will allow you to use the one cable or the connection of your choice.


Not true, the outside cable connection can be routed to a Sat receiver same as it can on the standard wall plate.

HOWEVER.. here is what I would suggest......

Always wire your rig as the factory wired it ...

If you change the wall plate to a sensor Pro.. Then on the cable in on the pro, put an A/B switch, A gets the current park cable, B the RF-OUT from (To Television) feed from the sat receiver, assuming it has such a feed (if it does not then forget the A/B switch)

A for Analog (most park cable provide analog)
B for Binary (All Sat TV transmissions are digital)

And install brand new RG-6 for the Sat receiver if there is not already a dedicated SAT cable in place.

Why: Well usually the body builder put in "Lowest bidder" cable for that park cable feed, and that will be low quality RG-59, very bad for sat TV work, On my coach there is easily 50 feet of that stuff between the inside end and the outside connectin, that is equal, loss wise, to over 200 feet of quality RG-6 and 300 feet is the limit.
Home was where I park it. but alas the.
2005 Damon Intruder 377 Alas declared a total loss
after a semi "nicked" it. Still have the radios
Kenwood TS-2000, ICOM ID-5100, ID-51A+2, ID-880 REF030C most times

Bill_Satellite
Explorer II
Explorer II
You will also not be able to use an outside cable connection to power a satellite antenna if you use the Sensar Pro. However, you can add an A/B switch to that coax end where your current power supply is (or where the Sensar Pro will be) and send one output from the A/B to the Sensar and the other output to the satellite receiver and that will allow you to use the one cable or the connection of your choice.
What I post is my 2 cents and nothing more. Please don't read anything into my post that's not there. If you disagree, that's OK.
Can't we all just get along?

Keith_Haw
Explorer
Explorer
Thanks again for the replies. Think I'll be installing one in the near future. Probably going to wire the outside cable input to a separate connector as my Dish receiver doesn't seem to like going through the plate I have now.

wa8yxm
Explorer III
Explorer III
Only been about a year since I did mine.. I do not (At this time) have anything hooked to the cable connection since one of the outputs feeds a box of many buttons.
Home was where I park it. but alas the.
2005 Damon Intruder 377 Alas declared a total loss
after a semi "nicked" it. Still have the radios
Kenwood TS-2000, ICOM ID-5100, ID-51A+2, ID-880 REF030C most times

ronfisherman
Moderator
Moderator
wa8yxm wrote:
ronfisherman wrote:
There are 3 cable that hang out back side of unit. 1 antenna, 1 front TV and 1 Rear TV.


Wrong, there are 4, ANT TV1, TV2, Cable in.

You do have to bring the one cable to a second plate mounted next door You can use a small metal square to mount the connector if you like.

Been a couple of years since I did mine. CRS does not help.
Here is a link to the SensorPro on Winegard site. Click on manual to see how to wire it.
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2012 Chevy Captiva Toad SOLD

Big_Katuna
Explorer II
Explorer II
I replaced my BOMB with the Sensar and wired everything direct when I converted to HD.
My av cab is next the front tv with one shelf about halfway up. I was in a hurry to get everything installed so "temporarily" mounted mine with 2 pcs of Velcro on the front of the Sensar cover and 2 pcs on the inside lip of the door frame. Works so well I am leaving it and I can rip it out if and when I need to.
My Kharma ran over my Dogma.

Keith_Haw
Explorer
Explorer
Thanks for the fast replies. That makes more sense now. The plate is mounted on 1/2" wood wall but adding a second plate, or just running it out under the plate, isn't a problem. That's how I have my Dish connected through the cable input now.

Bill_Satellite
Explorer II
Explorer II
As mentioned, there are 2 TV outs but they are both in the back of the Sensar Pro. In most cases, this is where the TV coax(es) are located and not an issue. However, if you do use and need a front output you can simply feed one of the 2 connection in the back between the wall and the wall plate and connect the coax in front. You could also drill a hole in the cabinet and install a barrel connector (if it's thin wall) to connect front to back or, as mentioned above, install a separate wall plate with a barrel connector. Both of those options would be done simply for looks as the first option works just as well.
What I post is my 2 cents and nothing more. Please don't read anything into my post that's not there. If you disagree, that's OK.
Can't we all just get along?