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Suburban LP water heater malfunction, need help.

Hemi_Joel
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Explorer
Hi, I am on a road trip with my 2018 Eagle Cap 1165, and the water heater has malfunctioned. I hope someone can help me with info to get it running. It is a Suburban SW6D, SN 171504878. LP only, no 110v. Last night I noticed that it lit and shut off about 3 times, then stayed unlit. The fault light next to the switch remains lit when ever the switch is on. This morning, I turned off the switch inside the camper for a while, then when I turned it back on, I could hear the gas valve solenoid open and close 3 times, but no flame. I went outside and opened the cover of the water heater, and pressed the reset button, but could not feel any movement of the button. (under a rubber cover) Then I turned off the switch inside the camper to reset the start up cycle, and when I turned it back on, I ran outside to observe. The gas valve was opening, but no spark to light it. The next time the gas valve opened, I lit it with a lighter, and it fired, but only for a couple seconds and then the gas valve shut. I repeated this process a couple times, with the same results.
The batteries are fully charged, and there is 1-1/4 bottles of propane. The furnace and the stove both operate properly, proving a proper gas supply. I hate having to go to a dealer for repairs, especially on a road trip with a schedule. I have tools, a digital multi meter, and good mechanical/electrical skills. But it would be good to hear from the voice of experience before I go any further.
Thanks,
Joel
2018 Eagle Cap 1163 triple slide, 400W solar, MPPT, on a 93 Dodge D350 Cummins, DTT 89 torque converter, big turbo, 3 extra main leafs, Rancho 9000s rear, Monroe gas magnums front, upper overloads removed, home made stableloads, bags.
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steved28
Explorer
Explorer
My original circuit board failed after owning my coach for 3 months. After reading the high failure rate reports on the OEM boards, I opted to bite the bullet and just buy the Dinosaur board. It works fine of course, time will tell if it holds up. But the warranty is much better.
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Edd505
Explorer
Explorer
Old-Biscuit wrote:
Got good DC otherwise gas valve solenoids would NOT be energized/valve opening

NO Spark........

You have either:
Bad ground
Bad spark electrode
Bad electrode wire connections
Bad circuit board

12V DC Circuit



Inspect electrode for crack in porcelain, proper gap (1/8โ€)or carbon build up on tip, ensure that spark is present at electrode tip, inspect burner for debris, inspect electrode wire for short (including against the back side fo the appliance door when in closed position), check electrode wire connections...clean/tight
Replace electrode.....otherwise circuit board is faulty

Electrode part number --- Suburban 232258
Circuit board part number..Suburban 520814


This is your resident expert. Thanks Old Biscuit, got the refer back on line.
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Ralph_Cramden
Explorer II
Explorer II
Hemi Joel wrote:
Maybe I need to carry a dinosaur as a spare.


A good idea. I bet the board you pulled looked like THIS.
Too many geezers, self appointed moderators, experts, and disappearing posts for me. Enjoy. How many times can the same thing be rehashed over and over?

Hemi_Joel
Explorer
Explorer
Maybe I need to carry a dinosaur as a spare.
2018 Eagle Cap 1163 triple slide, 400W solar, MPPT, on a 93 Dodge D350 Cummins, DTT 89 torque converter, big turbo, 3 extra main leafs, Rancho 9000s rear, Monroe gas magnums front, upper overloads removed, home made stableloads, bags.

steved28
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Explorer
enblethen wrote:
If you replace circuit board, I would recommend a Dinosaur Electronics version.


X2

If you replace it with the OEM Chinese junk board, it will most likely fail again... and again... With no warranty.

Dinasour stands behind their boards, are made in the U.S. , and are just plain a better design with a much better reputation.
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2000 Jeep Wrangler TJ Sahara

enblethen
Nomad
Nomad
Thanks for the update!

Bud
USAF Retired
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Hemi_Joel
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Explorer
Problem solved! first I tried putting in a new electrode, even though the old one looked pretty good. Because it was a lot cheaper than buying a module. That didn't do it, so I put in a new module, and it fired right up. Thanks for all the help!
2018 Eagle Cap 1163 triple slide, 400W solar, MPPT, on a 93 Dodge D350 Cummins, DTT 89 torque converter, big turbo, 3 extra main leafs, Rancho 9000s rear, Monroe gas magnums front, upper overloads removed, home made stableloads, bags.

wnjj
Explorer II
Explorer II
The spark electrode also functions as a flame sensor so even when lit by hand it will not stay if it can't sense the flame.

enblethen
Nomad
Nomad
If you replace circuit board, I would recommend a Dinosaur Electronics version.

Bud
USAF Retired
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2003 Chev Ice Road Tracker

Old-Biscuit
Explorer III
Explorer III
Got good DC otherwise gas valve solenoids would NOT be energized/valve opening

NO Spark........

You have either:
Bad ground
Bad spark electrode
Bad electrode wire connections
Bad circuit board

12V DC Circuit



Inspect electrode for crack in porcelain, proper gap (1/8โ€)or carbon build up on tip, ensure that spark is present at electrode tip, inspect burner for debris, inspect electrode wire for short (including against the back side fo the appliance door when in closed position), check electrode wire connections...clean/tight
Replace electrode.....otherwise circuit board is faulty

Electrode part number --- Suburban 232258
Circuit board part number..Suburban 520814
Is it time for your medication or mine?


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enblethen
Nomad
Nomad
Gas valve operating would indicate that there is power to the circuit board.
Have helper turn on water heater while you are at the unit. Listen for ignitor to spark.
You could have a helper turn on water heater while you use a long lighter to ignite gas inside burner area. Becareful as it could flash back!
Check the ignitor for proper spacing. Disconnect the ignitor wire, test it for conituity.
Check the porcelain on the ignitor for cracks.
Call Suburban for local repair person or shop. It could be bad circuit board. Could be still under warranty!

Bud
USAF Retired
Pace Arrow


2003 Chev Ice Road Tracker

Hemi_Joel
Explorer
Explorer
I just removed the cover from the thermostat and check it with the VOM. 12.6 volts on both terminals, confirming that it is functioning and calling for heat.
2018 Eagle Cap 1163 triple slide, 400W solar, MPPT, on a 93 Dodge D350 Cummins, DTT 89 torque converter, big turbo, 3 extra main leafs, Rancho 9000s rear, Monroe gas magnums front, upper overloads removed, home made stableloads, bags.

Harvard
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Explorer
Deleted, miss read OP, sorry