Unleaded

[2oldman]

No, that's not how it works.

[nadkaw1957]

It's several years old, but this is my favorite...

[MEXICOWANDERER]

I think those number crunchers have been imbibing in more than a few of those "numbers"

My ten dollar per hour process operator wage at Shell Oil pays thirty three dollars per hour today. My eighteen dollar per shop labor hour rate in 1979 has nine more years to go...

I bet you three to one NONE of those people were out of grade school, shoot maybe not even born when 1970 rolled around.

This is NUTSO! Rancho Cordova near Sacramento, AUGUST FIFTEEN NINETEEN SEVENTY ONE. Regular leaded gasoline

FOURTEEN
POUNT
NINE
CENTS
PER GALLON

Flying A Station Clayton Rd, Concord CA. 31.9 cents per gallon until Flying A sold the Tidewater Refinery.

You hit the nail precisely on the head why I despise today's "Proven science" and reported data". It cannot be trusted.

I was helping my father with his off-breed gasoline station in South Lake Tahoe when the gasoline jumped from twenty-nine, to thirty-five, then to fifty eight cents per gallon. The date? May 1972.

Another of my favorite sayings...

"Never try to BS the size of the fish to folks who live along the river"

Specifically not referring to you sir Burningman. I am referring to your "sources"

Just got through Tweddle-dee-de'ing" a note to an "Expert San Francisco Native" about her effusive memories about a particular "1951" memorable picture of a classic San Francisco event. In the background was a shiny new 1956 Ford Victoria.

Swallow "expert opinion (even mine)" with more than one grain of salt. It'll help keep you from looking like a horse's patootie when correct facts are presented.

I became a genuine cynic when I first traveled extensively through this country. I learned to avoid tourist areas. The one's that had amazing numbers of vacationing CIA agents, ex-Vietnam era Huey door gunners, and millionaire heirs traveling incognito.

Again, Burningman, no slight on your parts, The BULL #######'s make up compelling fairy tales.

[burningman]

Here’s what everyone always seems to miss: these ARE the good old days of cheap gas!
According to inflation calculators, $2.60 today is 40¢ in 1970, 30¢ in 1960.
Gas is almost as cheap now as it was in those old days when everyone thinks it was free to drive around at 10 mpg.
Remember, economy cars started getting popular way back in the early ‘60s when gas was supposedly so cheap. That’s because, it wasn’t.

[Jarlaxle]

dougrainer wrote:
Ignorance. By some of the posters. In terms of inflation, Gasoline is CHEAPER now than in the past 100 years. IF your paycheck rose in relation to the level of the price of gas, you would be EXTREMLY POOR in 2017. No, I do not work for any Oil Company or have anything to do with the Oil companies. Just have done extensive research and reading on the price of oil and gasoline in the past 100 years as it relates to inflation. A Gallon of bottled water is upwards of $10, yet people BUY it all the time and never complain. Doug

Actually, a gallon of bottled water ranges from 88 cents (Walmart) to a dollar and a half (Cumberland Farms).

[MEXICOWANDERER]

Maybe you can camouflage them...

[MEXICOWANDERER]

Ooooooo and YOU folks are going to have the prettiest scenery on the hoooooooly planet.

My tree will have grown to maybe 25' in height by then but I can visualize the headlines....

"PRINCIPALITY OF NINCOMPOOP FLIES ROCKET 125 MILES OVER WALL STREET AND DETONATES AN EMP WEAPON. AMERICA PARALYZED. MOTORS IN MAIN BATTLE TANKS FRIED. THREE HUNDRED MILLION COMMUTERS STRANDED. WOMEN COMMIT SUICIDE WHEN DISWASHERS QUIT. MEN TURN BACK DECADES AND RETURN TO ALCOHOL BINGING BECAUSE TV REMOTE CONTROLS SMOKE"

[John___Angela]

pnichols wrote:
David ... can't ya just wait to get yer first all electric vehicle so ya can fuel-up at all those charging pedestals that are somehow going to magically pop up everywhere fed by solar farms everywhere ... many of the them being of course free, magically, to the vehicles' owners.

I hope those pedestals have back-into sockets so the self-driving/fueling EV's can merely guide their plugs into the sockets for a free 15 minute charge-up while the passengers continue playing mind bending games on their mobile devices. That plug and socket arrangement will of course be an all-plastic induction setup, just like the one my rechargeable toothbrush has used for years.

P.S. I wonder if the pedestals will offer a choice of low, medium, or high energy electricity ... with the medium and high energy grades being offered at a small cost over the free low?

:B and :h and :S

Heh heh. I don't know about low, medium or high energy but interestingly enough they are developing some pretty cool self docking high speed chargers. I am sure it will be a few years before they hit mainstream. I think they are 350 KW units. You tube has some videos on them. As far as charging units popping up, roughly a 1/2 dozen a day in North America and a ton more in the rest of the world but most are level 2 and only a small percentage are solar powered. Most of the solar powered units are either Tesla Superchargers or Chademo/CCS level 3's. Still not common but getting more common everyday. My guess is you will see most new supercharger installations as solar installations in many parts of the world within a few years. .

[pnichols]

David ... can't ya just wait to get yer first all electric vehicle so ya can fuel-up at all those charging pedestals that are somehow going to magically pop up everywhere fed by solar farms everywhere ... many of the them being of course free, magically, to the vehicles' owners.

I hope those pedestals have back-into sockets so the self-driving/fueling EV's can merely guide their plugs into the sockets for a free 15 minute charge-up while the passengers continue playing mind bending games on their mobile devices. That plug and socket arrangement will of course be an all-plastic induction setup, just like the one my rechargeable toothbrush has used for years.

P.S. I wonder if the pedestals will offer a choice of low, medium, or high energy electricity ... with the medium and high energy grades being offered at a small cost over the free low?

:B and :h and :S

[MEXICOWANDERER]

For years and years down here, PEMEX sold "Almost Gasoline" By today's standard of R+M / 2, Super Mexolina would have had a "75" rating. But then the "Vochitos" Volkswagen Beetles had a compression ratio of 5.5 to 1 (Briggs & Stratton level)

Trips down here involved a choice rhetard* the timing so far, the engine thought today is yesterday, or suffer ventilated pistons and ell shaped connecting rods.

Someone at that station has a cute sense of humor

REGULAR
(Lowest, ordinary, entry level, budget, basic, plain)

*Dont'cha love the word police?

The cost of fuel can be ranted as being RIDICULOUSLY DIRT CHEAP by folks that easily afford it. Then there are the upper crust that would gag at the thought of purchasing the "easily affordable's" home as a rental (I don't do ghetto?).

The cost of fuel is THE (not merely "A") primary source of inflation. The cost of fuel and transportation down here is THE reason sending a 2 pound parcel 400 miles costs FIFTEEN DOLLARS. This is why AMAZON does not have a CLUE as to why it's sales in Mexico have been a huge disappointment. This is THE reason why cornfields for tortilla dough are regional here. To say one has studied this subject (fuel versus inflation) and had missed the effects of Ronald Reagan's administration on the price of fuel, inflation and basic price indices raises my eyebrows. Thoroughly confused members of some governments would LOVE to see fifteen dollar a gallon gasoline - at eight percent tax .24 cents at $3.00 per gallon versus $1.20 per gallon at $15.00 gallon. Tens of millions of dollars in "missed revenue" in the People's Republic, alone. BAH!

[2oldman]

fj12ryder wrote:
But it's common around here to label pumps Unleaded, and Premium, so "Unleaded" has come to be recognized as lowest octane rating,..

Obviously.

[MrWizard]

the pumps i see around here, and the signs

all say regular etc..

regular is NOT called unleaded

[fj12ryder]

2oldman wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
and it still doesn't really explain what you think is so exceptional.

The word unleaded is meaningless. It has nothing to do with grade of gasoline. Still not following?

Yes, I got it the first time. But it's common around here to label pumps Unleaded, and Premium, so "Unleaded" has come to be recognized as lowest octane rating, very similar to what "Regular" used to mean. Been that way for a long time.

[BFL13]

Phil, that's way better than "Senior Moment."

[pnichols]

Well .... I waded through some sources to find out what "ISTR" means .... and came up with this:

1. It means "International Society for Third-Sector Research".

AND/OR

2. It means "I Seem To Recall".

AND/OR

3. In my case, it means "I Struggle To Recall".

🙂