16 Navigator L towing Jayco 24BH

[itterref]

Hi, I have been lurking for a while but posting for the first time. I need some opinions on my set up.

2016 Navigator L
GVWR 7,900 lbs
GCWR 15,000 lbs
Towing capacity 8,700 lbs
Payload capacity 1,500 lbs
Front Axle rating 3,700 lbs
Rear Axle rating 4,330 lbs
Tires rating 5,202lbs per Axle
Tongue rating 900lbs
Hensley Hitch 200 lbs

Jayco 24BH
30' 6,300 lbs loaded.

Here are my numbers at the scale with the full family (6) and a half tank of gas. Trailer had an undisclosed amount of water in the fresh tank that I forgot to empty.

GVWR 8,160 lbs - 260 lbs over
GCWR 14,480 lbs - 520 lbs under
Front Axle 3,560 lbs - 140 lbs under
Rear Axle 4,600 lbs - 270 lbs over

However, we seldom travel like this. 90% of the time we have a 260 lb person who stays home. In that scenario we look like this.

GVWR 7,900 lbs - flat
GCWR 14,200 lbs - 800 lbs under
Front Axle 3,480 lbs - 220 lbs under
Rear Axle 4,420 lbs - 90 lbs over

I will remove all the water and weigh in again, I am assuming 200-300 lbs will come off.

I am asking if this would alarm anyone. I am sure there is a buffer in there and I am fine. I can't justify a 3/4 truck because I really need the 3rd row seat and all the features and benefits the Navigator provides as a daily vehicle.

Thoughts?

[Lantley]

I'm sure you realize you are at your limits. Actually exceeding axle rating is a definite no no.
That said for a one time close to home trip OK. But I do not think you should plan to tow regularly with your current combo.
Yes you are exceeding the ratings.
If one passenger or a box of apples makes a difference you are cutting it too close. You have put enough effort into knowing your ratings that you know better.
If you are looking for someone to agree and say your OK to be a tad over you are mistaken. You need a bigger truck or smaller trailer. You are compromising your safety.

[Thermoguy]

itterref wrote:
I will never travel with full tanks period. I stay at KOA'a most of the time.

You hope the KOA's have working facilities. I don't count on working facilities. I also travel with fresh water, because you never know, and we prefer to use our bathroom vs public.

We once thought we would just hit the next rest area to dump, 3 rest areas later, they were all out of service...

However, I prefer to camp, not stay at some roadside apartment complex with trailers stacked side by side...

[Grit_dog]

Get rid of the schitty tires and let ‘er rip. Nothing concerning about that vehicle and that trailer, regardless of whether you travel with water on board or extra passengers.

To be more specific, your tires aren’t overloaded but they are the worst choice for handling the additional load with respect to sidewall stiffness.
I can’t officially recommend this but whenever I’m stuck with a half ton and more payload than tire, I just air em up past max 5-10psi. Heat will kill the tire before a few extra psi’s and lbs’s.

[itterref]

I will never travel with full tanks period. I stay at KOA'a most of the time.

[Thermoguy]

You see your weights, its up to you if you are comfortable towing at or exceeding your weight limits.

I would suggest, what are your weights with full water, black, grey? What happens if you go to a camp with no water or sewer, or you think they have it but its closed. How far are you willing to drive way over weight. To me, my rig should be able to tow tanks full and room for extra cargo.