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2012 Chevy Silverado 1500 towing toy hauler

Rhoadzie
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Here are my specs and the specs of my trailer. Am I ok for towing:

Cheverolet 1500 Silverado Ext. Cab HD Towing package
Gross Axle Wt Rating - 3950 lbs (3950.0 min/3950.0max)
Front Gross Axle Wt Rating - 3950 lbs (3950.0 min/3950.0max)
Rear Curb Weight - 3217 lbs (3217.0 min/3217.0max)
Front Curb Weight -2057 lbs (2057.0 min/2057.0max)
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating Cap - 7200, 7000 lbs (7000.0 min/7300.0max)
Maximum Trailering Capacity - 10400 lbs (10400.0 min/10400.0max)

2015 Grey Wolf 27rr
Delivery weight 5762
GVWR - 7965
Tongue Weight - 965
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ib516
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You either will be close to, or over your payload rating. Whether or not that concerns you is up to you.
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irishtom29
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estesbubba wrote:


I don't think a WD hitch reduces the tongue weight but shifts some of it to the front axle on the TV.


You're correct that a WD hitch doesn't reduce tongue weight, however it does reduce load on the truck by shifting some of the load backwards to the trailer axles. And it also shifts load from tow vehicle's rear axle to it's front axle. So the WD hitch shifts load both to the front and rear.

But yes, it doesn't reduce tongue weight. The notion that theWD hitch doesn't reduce tongue weight yet does reduce load can be a hard one to wrap one's mind around. ๐Ÿ˜‰

estesbubba
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irishtom29 wrote:
KD4UPL wrote:
So your payload is 1473 and the trailer's tongue weight is 965. That leaves you with 508 pounds for the WDH, and all passengers and cargo you're going to put in the truck. I would guess, unless you're going solo, that you'll be over your payload capacity.


A WD hitch can shift 15-20% of the trailer load back to the trailer axles. In effect 1000 pounds of tongue weight would put only 800-850 pounds of load on the truck. That can gain a guy a couple of hundred pounds.


I don't think a WD hitch reduces the tongue weight but shifts some of it to the front axle on the TV.
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jerem0621
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Here is a link to the model the OP is looking at.

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colliehauler
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I would go with a 2500 truck or a smaller toy hauler. Buy the time you load it you will be way over on tongue weight. 50 gallons of water 400 lbs for example. On TH the axle is towards the back for the weight of the toys. Everything you load besides the toys adds weight to the tongue.

The empty tongue weight is 965 and no one tows a empty trailer.

irishtom29
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KD4UPL wrote:
So your payload is 1473 and the trailer's tongue weight is 965. That leaves you with 508 pounds for the WDH, and all passengers and cargo you're going to put in the truck. I would guess, unless you're going solo, that you'll be over your payload capacity.


A WD hitch can shift 15-20% of the trailer load back to the trailer axles. In effect 1000 pounds of tongue weight would put only 800-850 pounds of load on the truck. That can gain a guy a couple of hundred pounds.

downtheroad
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Is the tongue weight you posted the 'dry' tongue weight or the trip ready loaded tongue weight?

1473 Payload is going to be a problem.
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Rhoadzie
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The receiver is rated at 1100 pounds

KD4UPL
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So your payload is 1473 and the trailer's tongue weight is 965. That leaves you with 508 pounds for the WDH, and all passengers and cargo you're going to put in the truck. I would guess, unless you're going solo, that you'll be over your payload capacity.

irishtom29
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What's your hitch receiver rated at? With the weight of the hitch added to the tongue weight you might go over the receiver rating. But on the other hand toy haulers are often designed nose heavy with the expectation that a heavy load in the back, the so called toys, will decrease the tongue weight in actual use.

I have a toy hauler that I use as a plain camper and though it weighs only 4330 pounds dry it has an unusually heavy tongue weight of 950 pounds with propane, battery and full water tanks. Adding 100 pounds for my hitch puts actual total tongue weight at 1050 pounds, the limit of the receiver on my F-150. However when the trailer is loaded for camping, with heavy items in the rear, my total tongue weight goes down to 900 pounds. I use a tongue weight scale; I think it's a most useful device and essential for those working near the limits of their gear.

Rhoadzie
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1473 lbs

ib516
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Get your trucks payload from the "tire and loading information" sticker on the drivers door post. Its white and yellow. Weight of all occupants and cargo should not exceed xxxx lbs.
Prev: 2010 Cougar 322QBS (junk)
02 Dodge 2500 4x4 5.9L CTD 3.55
07 Dodge 3500 4x4 SRW Mega 5.9L CTD 3.73
14 Ram 2500 4x4 Crew 6.4L Hemi 4.10
06 Chevy 1500 4x4 E-Cab 3.73 5.3L
07 Dodge 1500 5.7L Hemi 3.55 / 2010 Jayco 17z
All above are sold, no longer own an RV

Dakota98
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All these figures & the most often missed when trying to calculate.

"YOUR TRUCKS PAYLOAD CAPACITY" :@
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