2020 IKE raw and unedited

[ib516]

The TFL guys just posted their raw and unedited version of all 3 trucks doing their IKE runs.

VIDEO

Ford seems to run higher temps for engine, oil, and trans. It also sounded like the cooling fan either ran a lot more, or is just louder by design compared to the other two.

It certainly performs well though.

[Cummins12V98]

MikeRP wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

MikeRP wrote:
Yeah, I watched the power stroke help video on various Ford engines. He really likes the Ford truck itself from the 6.0L years and once he does the bulletproof job, he says that truck is one of the best out there. It probably is up there on reliability with no emissions controls. So he’s either right or a good salesman.

But again just anecdotally, I saw two videos where 2019 Fords with low mileage had the death wobble. One was a factory out of alignment job at like 20000 miles but the other was worn parts at 40000 miles.

Also I saw a 2019 Ram w the normal Cummins where the tranny had failed due to the driver not using tow haul and not locking out the higher gears. I know mine has to be in fifth while towing not sure about the 8 speed. The good think is Ram still stood behind the repair.

I know nothing about the upper comments but I call BS on the last paragraph.

AISIN or 68rfe?

Ahhh well it was the 68rfe and I was as surprised as you. To be fair, they didn’t know the full diagnosis and they were pulling it into the shop when I saw the truck.

Every once in a while someone thinks I’m full of bull malarkey and I might be 50%. Haha. But that story is a true one, unusual to be sure.

NOT doubting you. I was asking what trans and I actually was fairly sure it was the 68. Reason is there is some sort of recall on 19 and 20 68rfe’s.

BS part is why they said it failed.

[blofgren]

FishOnOne wrote:

ib516 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

And that 6.7L cummins was plagued with problems including the emissions system. At the shop my cousin works at it developed the nick name "The Next 6.0L".

When was the last time you seen a Dodge Ram with the "Blue Tec" badge on the tailgate? Yeah... 500k miles LOL

The 6.7L Cummins from 2008 to 2010 did have emissions related issues for sure (as did GM's Duramax and Ford's diesels).

Having said that, saying an 6.7L Cummins (or any Ram/Dodge Cummins engine) is as bad as the complete and total engineering blunder that Ford pushed on the public in the form of the 6.0L and the 6.4L is a huge stretch to say the least. At least there are still people out there that will fix 2008 to 2010 6.7L Cummins engines. Heck, even Bill Hewitt (Powerstrokehelp.com) gave up on the 6.4L as did Ford! The junk 6.0L POS is solely responsible for destroying Ford's previous overwhelming share of the ambulance market as well.

The current Ford 6.7L diesel appears to be as good as any of them, and very powerful. They seem to have learned their lesson.

Having said that when was the last time you've seen a Dodge 6.7 cummins Blue Tec and a Ford 6.0PSD?

This is blind brand loyalty at it's best. I had a Ford 6.0L and was a die hard Ford man; the truck in my sig speaks for how that truck and Ford treated me.

There are plenty of 1st generation Cummins 6.7L trucks still running around in my area and as a matter of fact a coworker of mine just had one from a totalled 2009 Ram installed in his 2008 F350 after the 6.4L grenaded on him at 170k kms. At least one could delete the early Cummins 6.7L and have a great truck; the Ford 6.0L and 6.4L diesels not so much....

[MikeRP]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

MikeRP wrote:
Yeah, I watched the power stroke help video on various Ford engines. He really likes the Ford truck itself from the 6.0L years and once he does the bulletproof job, he says that truck is one of the best out there. It probably is up there on reliability with no emissions controls. So he’s either right or a good salesman.

But again just anecdotally, I saw two videos where 2019 Fords with low mileage had the death wobble. One was a factory out of alignment job at like 20000 miles but the other was worn parts at 40000 miles.

Also I saw a 2019 Ram w the normal Cummins where the tranny had failed due to the driver not using tow haul and not locking out the higher gears. I know mine has to be in fifth while towing not sure about the 8 speed. The good think is Ram still stood behind the repair.

I know nothing about the upper comments but I call BS on the last paragraph.

AISIN or 68rfe?

Ahhh well it was the 68rfe and I was as surprised as you. To be fair, they didn’t know the full diagnosis and they were pulling it into the shop when I saw the truck.

Every once in a while someone thinks I’m full of bull malarkey and I might be 50%. Haha. But that story is a true one, unusual to be sure.

[Cummins12V98]

I have seen several wreckers.

[FishOnOne]

ib516 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

And that 6.7L cummins was plagued with problems including the emissions system. At the shop my cousin works at it developed the nick name "The Next 6.0L".

When was the last time you seen a Dodge Ram with the "Blue Tec" badge on the tailgate? Yeah... 500k miles LOL

The 6.7L Cummins from 2008 to 2010 did have emissions related issues for sure (as did GM's Duramax and Ford's diesels).

Having said that, saying an 6.7L Cummins (or any Ram/Dodge Cummins engine) is as bad as the complete and total engineering blunder that Ford pushed on the public in the form of the 6.0L and the 6.4L is a huge stretch to say the least. At least there are still people out there that will fix 2008 to 2010 6.7L Cummins engines. Heck, even Bill Hewitt (Powerstrokehelp.com) gave up on the 6.4L as did Ford! The junk 6.0L POS is solely responsible for destroying Ford's previous overwhelming share of the ambulance market as well.

The current Ford 6.7L diesel appears to be as good as any of them, and very powerful. They seem to have learned their lesson.

Having said that when was the last time you've seen a Dodge 6.7 cummins Blue Tec and a Ford 6.0PSD?

[Cummins12V98]

MikeRP wrote:
Yeah, I watched the power stroke help video on various Ford engines. He really likes the Ford truck itself from the 6.0L years and once he does the bulletproof job, he says that truck is one of the best out there. It probably is up there on reliability with no emissions controls. So he’s either right or a good salesman.

But again just anecdotally, I saw two videos where 2019 Fords with low mileage had the death wobble. One was a factory out of alignment job at like 20000 miles but the other was worn parts at 40000 miles.

Also I saw a 2019 Ram w the normal Cummins where the tranny had failed due to the driver not using tow haul and not locking out the higher gears. I know mine has to be in fifth while towing not sure about the 8 speed. The good think is Ram still stood behind the repair.

I know nothing about the upper comments but I call BS on the last paragraph.

AISIN or 68rfe?

[FishOnOne]

Me Again wrote:

ib516 wrote:
They seem to have learned their lesson.

We will know they have learn their lesson when we start hearing that they warranty things without blaming the owner for bad fuel etc.

Here's another he said she said... Just last month a member here reported their friends Ford CP4.2 pump failed and Ford replaced it under warranty, and you can include a few others here from a few years who experienced a HPFP failure and warranty covered it.

[FishOnOne]

MikeRP wrote:
Also to me since not many RVers will ever tow near 30,000 lbs it feels like we ought to be looking at cost to operate each of the HD trucks ie fuel mileage, maintenance, Capital cost, etc. I do really believe all these trucks will serve our functions admirably.

Peace

With 185k miles my truck has cost very little to keep on the road in almost 8 years.

[MikeRP]

Also to me since not many RVers will ever tow near 30,000 lbs it feels like we ought to be looking at cost to operate each of the HD trucks ie fuel mileage, maintenance, Capital cost, etc. I do really believe all these trucks will serve our functions admirably.

Peace

[MikeRP]

Yeah, I watched the power stroke help video on various Ford engines. He really likes the Ford truck itself from the 6.0L years and once he does the bulletproof job, he says that truck is one of the best out there. It probably is up there on reliability with no emissions controls. So he’s either right or a good salesman.

But again just anecdotally, I saw two videos where 2019 Fords with low mileage had the death wobble. One was a factory out of alignment job at like 20000 miles but the other was worn parts at 40000 miles.

Also I saw a 2019 Ram w the normal Cummins where the tranny had failed due to the driver not using tow haul and not locking out the higher gears. I know mine has to be in fifth while towing not sure about the 8 speed. The good think is Ram still stood behind the repair.

[Me_Again]

ib516 wrote:
They seem to have learned their lesson.

We will know they have learn their lesson when we start hearing that they warranty things without blaming the owner for bad fuel etc.

[ib516]

FishOnOne wrote:

And that 6.7L cummins was plagued with problems including the emissions system. At the shop my cousin works at it developed the nick name "The Next 6.0L".

When was the last time you seen a Dodge Ram with the "Blue Tec" badge on the tailgate? Yeah... 500k miles LOL

The 6.7L Cummins from 2008 to 2010 did have emissions related issues for sure (as did GM's Duramax and Ford's diesels).

Having said that, saying an 6.7L Cummins (or any Ram/Dodge Cummins engine) is as bad as the complete and total engineering blunder that Ford pushed on the public in the form of the 6.0L and the 6.4L is a huge stretch to say the least. At least there are still people out there that will fix 2008 to 2010 6.7L Cummins engines. Heck, even Bill Hewitt (Powerstrokehelp.com) gave up on the 6.4L as did Ford! The junk 6.0L POS is solely responsible for destroying Ford's previous overwhelming share of the ambulance market as well.

The current Ford 6.7L diesel appears to be as good as any of them, and very powerful. They seem to have learned their lesson.

[cummins2014]

Me Again wrote:

4x4ord wrote:

stsmark wrote:
So I read the 2020 Ram 3500 owners manual regarding EB and Cruise. It states that max EB is only available in Auto mode.

I wonder what that means? Is it because auto mode can utilize the wheel brakes if need be or does "EB On" not generate full back pressure? How does cruise work? Do you have the choice of either selecting auto EB or full on EB while using cruise?

Trouble with RAM "auto" EB is the truck overruns the set cruise control speed by 4-5 MPH before the EB kicks in. If it was 1 or 2 I would use auto, but I am a Full EB guy and regulate speed with the throttle pedal.

I would never want an EB that also applies the service brakes without my knowledge.

I guess we all run it different , came off the hill into Bullhead City, Az , it’s a long grade . Set the cruise at 45 , I use FULL EB , it does the same overrun 4-5 . Never touched the brakes the entire hill ran 50 all the way , until towards the bottom when the speed limit changed . Never have used Auto , I guess it will overrun 4-5 also .Full works great for me . I see no need to use the throttle on that hill pretty straight shot , no curves that 50 was too fast . No different to me then using cruise on the flat .

[MikeRP]

Yes My first Cummins was an 2008 MegaCab 2500 with the new 6.7L. It was a wonderful truck. I put about 35000 miles on it and my brother the same after I sold it to him w no issues. I wish I would have kept it! The truck had great power.

[ShinerBock]

FishOnOne wrote:

And that 6.7L cummins was plagued with problems including the emissions system. At the shop my cousin works at it developed the nick name "The Next 6.0L".

When was the last time you seen a Dodge Ram with the "Blue Tec" badge on the tailgate? Yeah... 500k miles LOL

That is ironic because that is what our Ford dealerships called the 2010 to 2014 6 7L Powerstrokes due to fuel system and turbo issues.