โJan-20-2021 10:57 AM
โFeb-28-2021 07:49 PM
blofgren wrote:4x4ord wrote:
^^^I really don't notice a whole lot of difference from the '17 to '21. The '21 definitely gets better fuel economy, but the '17 was not good. It looks like the empty highway mileage of the 21 will be 12.6 litres/100 km (18.7 mpg US) compared to 15 L/100 km with the '17. The exhaust brake on the new one is no better than the old one.
That's pretty respectable fuel economy for a 1 ton 4x4 pickup. What is your highway RPM's?
โFeb-28-2021 03:48 PM
4x4ord wrote:
^^^I really don't notice a whole lot of difference from the '17 to '21. The '21 definitely gets better fuel economy, but the '17 was not good. It looks like the empty highway mileage of the 21 will be 12.6 litres/100 km (18.7 mpg US) compared to 15 L/100 km with the '17. The exhaust brake on the new one is no better than the old one.
โFeb-28-2021 09:52 AM
โFeb-28-2021 09:12 AM
blofgren wrote:4x4ord wrote:
I guess it depends on how well you do on your buying and selling but in my case the longer I keep a truck the more it costs me to own.
I noticed that as well when I owned Fords, but that changed when I bought a Ram. :B
โFeb-28-2021 08:03 AM
4x4ord wrote:
^^^^No Iโve sold the โ17. I think my 2021 Platinum could be sold for 85k .... Iโm probably being conservative.
โFeb-27-2021 07:19 PM
โFeb-27-2021 05:16 PM
4x4ord wrote:cummins2014 wrote:4x4ord wrote:N-Trouble wrote:4x4ord wrote:
Why not buy a new 2021 Super Duty and then replace it when the 2023's come out?
Ah Sure, You payin?
What a dumb comment... How do YOU know anyones financial situation?
I don't know his financial situation. I simply asked a question. I guess it depends on how well you do on your buying and selling but in my case the longer I keep a truck the more it costs me to own.
Want to compare money spent for nearly 23 years on two trucks that I have owned . 16 years with a new 1999 Superduty 350, nearly 7 years with a 2014 Ram 3500 . Lets see what we come up with , want to bet who has spent the most. ๐
On edit , I am willing to bet I spent less on those two trucks ,then you have spent on just the one ,and if not mistaken you got a new 2021 or one coming ??
Our total costs might not be that much different. I didn't buy anything around 1999 but I did buy a new truck in 2011, 2016, 2017, 2021. If I could sell the one in my garage for $85k (and I'm certain I could) I'd be out $20k over the past 10 years... $2000 CAD/year. I'm going to guess if you sold the one in your garage you'd get about 15k less than what you paid for it in 2014.... so about $2140 USD/year. And you've likely spent a little more on things like tires, oil changes and repairs than I have. On the other hand, we have to recognize that mine has cost me a little more on the opportunity cost of the additional money I have had tied up in a truck.
โFeb-27-2021 05:11 PM
otrfun wrote:4x4ord wrote:Agree, the Ram mirrors could use some improvement. I hate having to do a total readjustment everytime I move the mirror housings. Also not fond of the way the mirrors look in the vertical (moose/towing) position.
. . . It might sound silly but the thing that I would miss most going from Ford to Ram is the towing mirrors. I canโt believe Ram doesnโt copy Fordโs mirrors.
โFeb-27-2021 08:30 AM
wowens79 wrote:The Cummins is the primary reason we went Ram. Without it, the Ram is a hard sell for us. If we were going gas, we'd go all-in with the Ford 7.3.
The Ram interior to me is by far the nicest. Iโm going with a gasser in a Big Horn/XLT trim. I really want the Ford 7.3, but the Ram 6.4 would be ok. But Ram seems to have better pricing.
โFeb-27-2021 08:20 AM
4x4ord wrote:Agree, the Ram mirrors could use some improvement. I hate having to do a total readjustment everytime I move the mirror housings. Also not fond of the way the mirrors look in the vertical (moose/towing) position.
. . . It might sound silly but the thing that I would miss most going from Ford to Ram is the towing mirrors. I canโt believe Ram doesnโt copy Fordโs mirrors.
โFeb-27-2021 08:05 AM
blofgren wrote:4x4ord wrote:
I guess it depends on how well you do on your buying and selling but in my case the longer I keep a truck the more it costs me to own.
I noticed that as well when I owned Fords, but that changed when I bought a Ram. :B
โFeb-26-2021 07:40 PM
โFeb-26-2021 07:31 PM
otrfun wrote:wowens79 wrote:I would assume the next-gen Super Duty's will eventually get the F150 interiors, just like they did in 2017.
I've been wondering the same thing. Supposedly they are cutting off new orders on 3/15 for 2021's. I've read rumors of an update for 2022, and 2023. I wish they would update the interio for 2022, that is the part of the truck that needs help. I like the Ram and Chevy interiors better, but really want the new 7.3 and 10spd.
I'd think that if it was gonna be 2022 we would have seen some pics somewhere by now, but I'm hoping they go ahead and update.
I'm probably gonna buy a new truck in the next year, my 2002 is about ready for retirement.
Ref your comment about interiors, most trade journals seem to favor the Ram interior. Ford feels the need to "picture frame" or exaggerate every part of the dash (especially with the new '21 F150)---forming IMO an overly modular, blocky appearance. Ram has a much more smooth, seamless transition from one part of the dash to another.
We're also going to be in the market for a new 1-ton truck about a year from now. We're hoping Ram starts using the 1500's new crew cab and a 10-speed behind the Cummins by MY 2023. If not, we'll probably be looking hard at the next gen F350's instead.
โFeb-26-2021 07:16 PM
otrfun wrote:wowens79 wrote:I would assume the next-gen Super Duty's will eventually get the F150 interiors, just like they did in 2017.
I've been wondering the same thing. Supposedly they are cutting off new orders on 3/15 for 2021's. I've read rumors of an update for 2022, and 2023. I wish they would update the interio for 2022, that is the part of the truck that needs help. I like the Ram and Chevy interiors better, but really want the new 7.3 and 10spd.
I'd think that if it was gonna be 2022 we would have seen some pics somewhere by now, but I'm hoping they go ahead and update.
I'm probably gonna buy a new truck in the next year, my 2002 is about ready for retirement.
Ref your comment about interiors, most trade journals seem to favor the Ram interior. Ford feels the need to "picture frame" or exaggerate every part of the dash (especially with the new '21 F150)---forming IMO an overly modular, blocky appearance. Ram has a much more smooth, seamless transition from one part of the dash to another.
We're also going to be in the market for a new 1-ton truck about a year from now. We're hoping Ram starts using the 1500's new crew cab and a 10-speed behind the Cummins by MY 2023. If not, we'll probably be looking hard at the next gen F350's instead.