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Another White RimTrail TR

cewillis
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I drove and camped on the WRT in mid-June. I chose that time to have dry weather, and a small crowd -- got both. It was ~ 10 degrees hotter than the advertised average high of 93, and didn't cool to 80 until ~10pm. Didn't bother me.
The WRT is often described as 'moderately difficult in good weather'. I'd say it's primarily just a slow drive; e.g., 35 miles in 9 hours. Many sections are rough, or steep, or narrow, or deep sand, or badly rutted, or have sharp turns, or some combination - but it is not really very difficult with respect to any of those conditions (could be much worse in wet conditions).
For anyone interested in my equipment setup, it's here.
Here's a great map of Canyonlands and the surrounding area.
My amateur panorama from the Grand View Point Overlook (way above the WRT) is here. (too big too post here)

I'm posting a good sample of pictures here, and may add more. For anyone interested, my web site has more info and ~150 larger pictures.

I stopped overnight going north at the Goosenecks of the San Jaun. (thanks, Dave)




The WRT from the Grand View Point Overlook.


Starting down the Shafer Trail to the WRT.






At the bottom


The Colorado River




Airport Tower -- 1st campsite




A section of 'paved' road.


And not paved




Napoleon addressing his troops


Approaching the (in)famous 'Murphy's Hogback'


That must be it


Looks like an ordinary little hill to me




And down the other side


'The' overhang? An overhang. More than 2 feet clearance.




Good look at the Green River.


Which also has a gooseneck






This is about as rough as the road got -- so not very, if slow.




A Ford 3500 dually flatbed pumper. This is between Murphy hill and Hardscrabble hill. So how bad can the road be?.




On Hardscrabble Hill


Near the top


Here's what it looks like. One turn was too tight for me. There are wide turn areas at three corners.


Pretty nice views around here


Hardscrabble B camp area - quite nice.


This is a big river. Lots of splashes out there, too.


Finally found the nearly hidden river access - would be better without so much Coyote Willow and Tamerisk.


The bank is steep and slippery, and the mud is very soft -- sink right in.


A little sand --


Labyrinth camp area -- near the Mineral Bottom exit. Also nice.




Wanna wind up in the Green River? Don't pay attention through here.


OK -- but a dually flatbed can make it.


Now come on! The road is rougher than that. Near the Mineral Bottom boat ramp turn. There were dozens of kids over there - about to start or just ended a canoe trip.


Mineral Bottom switchbacks. Had to back up here to let a van and canoe trailer by. Then wait as at least a dozen Suburbans and a few trucks pulling empty canoe trailers went by. See the bus?


That afternoon, 10000+ feet in the Manti-La Sal NF. Temp: 75 at 4:30. 25+ degrees lower than on the WRT.


Think I'll stay here.


Stopped at Muley Point on the way home.


Panorama from Muley Point.
Cal
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cewillis
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Thanks for the compliments. I forgot to summarize the trip. Scenery outstanding, camping adequate but not a reason to go back; road conditions pretty mild. Hardscrabble B is the best site in my opinion, and Labyrinth would also be nice if not much traffic.

Don't mean to step on any toes with my description of the road as fairly tame. Honestly, I had a little trepidation based on other descriptions of the road and the various warnings on the Canyonlands site. But I described it as I found it in the dry, uncrowded conditions I had (by plan). I said it could be much worse when wet.
For instance, currently on the Canyonlands site:
White Rim Road: open with some significant flood damage.
Lathrop Road: impassable after two miles

UPDATE โ€“ July 13, 2015 โ€“ Recent rain events have heavily impacted certain sections of the White Rim. Significant impacts occurred mostly in wash bottoms between Murphy Hogback and Airport, including Lathrop Canyon. One occurrence of rockfall on Murphy Hogback has created a significant barrier to four-wheeled vehicles attempting to drive the White Rim in its entirety.
It would also be 'undesirable' if much backing up for traffic was required in the narrow places .

Bicycles: If you ride this road in the summer, you're a much better man than I -- or flat out nuts. Or both.

Narrow spots and overhangs: No, there is no bail out room. You either fit, or you back out. My camper is 7 feet wide, and the mirrors stick out to almost 9 feet. I didn't pull in the mirrors, and never touched them on any obstacles, but it was very close. As you can see in the pictures, my Apex 8 basement popup (travel height approximately 8'-9") cleared the lowest overhang by about 2 feet.

Hardside campers: As I read the TC trip reports, NedRierson78 is the only one here who has made the entire route in a hardside camper, although C.Traveler2 got close by by combining two trips and starting in different directions. Please correct if mistaken. So it can be done. The two tightest places are between Hardscrabble camp area and Mineral Bottom. So if you're concerned about making it, I'd suggest starting at Mineral Bottom, and walking the tight areas first.

Wheelbase: Obviously, shorter is better for the tight turns. My wheelbase is 143", and I had to make one 2-point turn. However, there are large turn areas at every really tight turn that I remember.

silversand wrote:
....this one slipped by me!
And many say 'You can't slip anything by ole Silver'.

And finally,
67avion wrote:
I know Dear Jane would flat get out and walk back....and I'd have to go on without her ;-(
You are TOTALLY on your own with that situation, Sir.

If more questions, let me know.
Cal

c_traveler2
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Nice WRT report like with many things back road conditions can change with the weather. Our first trip down the WRT took us all day just to reach Airport campsite, the trail was that rough. The OP adventure shows how the same trail can change from one adventurer journey to the next trail blazers experience on the same trail.
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jefe_4x4
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Good report and pix. A lot of old friendly locales here. It looks like you were solo. What? No selfies? I guess those legs in the mud could be considered a selfie in TC-land.
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silversand
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....this one slipped by me!

A lot of forethought, it appears, went into choosing your "weather window". This made for a very smooth "expedition" through terrain that could have otherwise been a hellacious slog.

Excellent report!

S-
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joerg68
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Very cool! Nice Driving... And the landscape - gorgeous as always.

Certainly better than the view out of my office window ๐Ÿ˜‰

Thanks a lot for taking me along, TR-wise!
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sabconsulting
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Wow, you are so lucky to have all this on your doorstep.

Thanks for the report.

Steve.
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nycsteve
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Very nice ,thanks. I would have trouble with the overhang I think. Unless there was enough room on the side to slip around. Is there?

The_Mad_Norsky
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TCinmydreams40yrs wrote:
Kinda new here, but..
Real nice!
I went to Canyonlands site and was disturbed that you can't take pets.
Darn.

Tom


Ouch. Thanks, just looked too for curiosity.

From Canyonlands website: Pets are not allowed on any hiking trails or in the backcountry, even on a boat or in a vehicle.

Guess that takes WRT off my bucket list. Shoot!
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TomP40
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Kinda new here, but..
Real nice!
I went to Canyonlands site and was disturbed that you can't take pets.
Darn.

Tom
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CptnBG
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Excellent!! Canyonlands is on my short list. Although I won't be able to do the North Rim on an upcoming trip, your report is very helpful. And thanks for the map! Very detailed.
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trackhead
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I've done the White Rim a couple times on the moto, and the bicycle, haven't gotten my family down there yet. Would love to when we move back to Utardia.

Thanks for posting.

GoinThisAway
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Great trip report. Surprisingly green down along the river. It's always amazed me that one can go from the shot depths of the canyons to the cool heights of the LaSals in a one day.
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F350mule
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Nice pics! Hope to make it out there again maybe next year.
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Stormpeakco
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Nice pics and an Epic trip on a bicycle.
I've done it during a 3 day/2 night sojourn but know of people who have ridden it in one. I would think in a vehicle it would be tougher than on the bike, rough road.