Arctic Fox versus Toyota Tundra

[T18skyguy]

I'm considering purchasing an Arctic Fox 26x. The book dry weight is about 7500. The owner says the dry weight is 10,000 lbs. I think it could be wet weight possibly and think he might be confusing the two. My Crewmax Tundra is rated to 9000 lbs towing. It seems a bit of a push to me. I'm experienced with towing, and am wondering if anyone is towing this much weight with a Tundra and what is your setup. I'm really respectful of this kind of stuff any advice appreciated.

[4Kellys]

You'll exceed your truck's payload before any of the other numbers more than likely

[4Kellys]

The hitch weight on the Arctic Fox is about the same as my Wind River and with my truck, 2011 F-150 Eco-boost Max-tow, I'm just under my max payload loaded of 1450 and max hitch wt. of 1150. I would say you'd be way overloaded.

[IDoMyOwnStunts]

Tongue weight of 1020 is likely already over the Tundra's receiver rating once you add WD equipment, propane, batteries, load for camping, etc.

It may get the trailer moving, but it'll be a white knuckle experience controlling it. Been there, done that, it's just not worth it.

[kknowlton]

Our previous TT had a GVWR of 7600 lbs (we probably overloaded it somewhat, and towed it weighing perhaps 8000 lbs.) The truck pulled it fine, but we could tell we were right at the limit (and above the GVWR of the truck, actually). And I'm sure stopping it was a little tough on the brakes, good as they are. I'd not recommend as heavy a trailer as you're considering with this light of a truck. The engine will do fine, but it will tax the body.

[braindead0]

And if you intend to tow in the mountains, towing max capacity will not likely be fun. Our TT is very light (2740# loaded), originally towed with a Nissan Frontier that was rated at 6800# so we were less than half the rating on that TT.. towing in the mountains stank, often we couldn't get back up to speed after slowing for tight turns.. and very often we had to flog that poor truck.

That being said I believe the changed the tow rating calculation methods recently, my fronty was an '07 so likely was 'rated' using the earlier much more optimistic methods.

[3oaks]

The GVWR is required to be on the tire/VIN placard. If you can tow the GVWR, you can tow the trailer.

Well, maybe, that is if the tongue weight along with the people and cargo in the TV doesn't put the tow vehicle over it's GVWR. :@

[Campfire_Time]

beemerphile1 wrote:
Correct dry weight is unimportant. The only time you will be towing a dry/empty trailer is on the day you buy it.

The GVWR is required to be on the tire/VIN placard. If you can tow the GVWR, you can tow the trailer.

Exactly. This is nice and simply stated. Ready to camp you'll always be closer to GVWR than the stated dry weight.

[coolbreeze01]

Nice truck and nice trailer but not a good combination.

[Deleted_per_op]

T18, Your Tundra may be rated for 9000 lbs, but read the rest of your numbers. On my Tunrda, the gross combined vehicle rating (total of truck and trailer weights) is the limiting factor and results in a max trailer weight much less than the towing capacity.

[Artum_Snowbird]

hitch weight: 1,020 lb
gvwr: 10,800 lb

Just like your retired profession, a little extra in front is a lot better than not enough.

[APT]

From the 5 min research on that model, I'd say it's likely to put your Tundra over a few of its ratings. I think the 7500-ish pounds dry seems accurate, which means you'd be in the 8500 pounds loaded with about 1200 pounds of TW. I have never seen a Crewmax with more than 1500 pounds of payload available. Do you as driver, anyone else you plan to bring with you, and a bed full of camping gear weigh less than 300 pounds?

I recommend starting with your as equipped payload as noted on the tire and loading sticker where it says the maximum combined weight of occupants and cargo shall not exceed xxxx pounds. Work back from there to an appropriate loaded RV tongue weight.

[downtheroad]

Not a good combination
The Arctic Fox 26X is from the "Silver Fox" line...which makes it even heavier.

Here are the stats from Northwood.
What is very troubling for a Toyota Tundra is the listed dry tongue weight of 1020 lbs.


ext length: 28? 5?

ext width: 8?

ext height: 11? 2?

int
height: 6? 8?

freshwater cap: 67 gal

black-/gray-water
cap: 45 gal/30 gal/25 gal (2 gray tanks)

hitch weight: 1,020 lb

gvwr: 10,800 lb

[carringb]

Empty wet weight is probably closer to 10,000 pounds than 7500. He's probably never gotten a true dry weight since it never weights that even when it leaves the factory (even Arctic Fox calls some items "options" that really aren't optional). GVWR is 10.400. All Northwoods trailers are heavy. That is too much for any half-ton, except an F150 with the Max Payload package or a 1500HD.

[beemerphile1]

Correct dry weight is unimportant. The only time you will be towing a dry/empty trailer is on the day you buy it.

The GVWR is required to be on the tire/VIN placard. If you can tow the GVWR, you can tow the trailer.