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Blue Sea Systems 12v Outlet Installations

Mello_Mike
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In today's electronic age you can never have enough USB charging ports and electrical outlets in your RV. This is especially true for those of us who work while on the road. My office is actually located at home, but when I travel or I'm on vacation, I often take my work with me. Such was the case last month when I took a combined business and vacation trip to Salt Lake City and southern Utah in the truck camper. With all the laptops, iPads, and iPhones we brought along with us, a single 110 volt AC outlet didn't come close to supplying all of our power needs. More was needed.

Most of the electronic devices we use recharge on USB ports. At home we use the little USB Dock Chargers that came with our iPhones and iPads, but each takes up a single AC outlet. Making matters worse, when we're camping off-the-grid, which is most of the time, we have only one 110 volt AC outlet (this runs off of our 300 watt Morningstar pure sine wave inverter). Using the USB Dock Chargers filled up this outlet, so during the trip we picked up an AC outlet adapter equipped with three AC outlets and two USB ports for $15. This was a big help for us on this business trip, but more USB charging ports were still needed.



Fortunately, I had recently ordered several DC outlets and USB charging ports from Blue Sea Systems. This shipment included what Blue Sea calls a "360 Panel," a modular, integrated unit that has a 12 volt outlet on one side and a dual USB charging port on the other. Yes, Blue Sea's stuff is spendy, but their products are extremely well made, have a lifetime warranty, and have higher than normal operating specs. For instance, most 12 volt outlets on the market are rated for 5 amps, but Blue Sea's marine quality outlets are rated for a whopping 15 amps (each USB port has a rated output of 2.1 amps). A great feature about this Blue Sea panel is that the components are removable and interchangeable. If you want another dual USB charging port all you have to do is remove the 12 volt outlet and install a USB port instead.

Installing the panel itself wasn't too difficult, though a little planning was required. The most difficult part was looking for a suitable location that could easily be reached and had access to 12 volt wiring. A low point in the dinette area was the obvious place to mount this panel, but no 12 volt wiring existed where we wanted to put it. Fortunately, the large dinette cubby already had a hole drilled in the floor to pass 110 volt AC romex, so I wouldn't need to drill another one. All I'd need to do was pass two new 12 volt wires through the existing hole and fish the wire in the void between the floor underneath and the fresh water tank. It sounds difficult, but it wasn't too bad with the help of a mirror, flashlight, and a clothes hanger fashioned into a large hook to grab hold of the two wires.



Before running the wires underneath the floor, I first had to prep them for connecting to the panel. Unlike most 12 volt outlets and ports, the Blue Sea panel has four electrical blade connections on the backside, two positive and two negative. Rather than run four sets of separate wires, I decided to run two heavy 12 AWG wires and splice two short wires into these main wires. I spliced the wires by stripping 1/2" of insulation, creating a small gap in the copper strands, inserting another wire into the gap, then twisting the wires together. To make the T-shaped splices permanent I soldered them then wrapped the soldered joint with insulation tape (I prefer shrink tube insulation for soldered connections, but I still haven't figured out a good way to do it for T-shaped soldered joints).



Installing the panel itself was pretty easy. The installation kit comes with a template that makes cutting the panel cutout easy. The panel wood is pretty thin and didn't take much effort to cut a good sized hole with the small hand saw I used. The black aluminum panel looks great with the plastic framing on the top and bottom which covers the mounting screws. The photos below show the front and backside of the mounted panel. Note that the 12 volt wiring behind the panel is now covered with black conduit to further protect the wires.





Fortunately, the 12 volt fuse panel was located nearby and had two open slots for expansion. Since I used 12 AWG wire for this project I protected the circuit with a 20 amp fuse. Like I said earlier, the maximum output ratings for the panel are 15 amps for the outlet and 2.1 amps for each USB port, so the 20 amp fuse gives me a little room to play with. As for the 12 volt negative wire, I simply tapped into the negative fuse block near the power converter.

After installing the 360 Panel, I turned my attention to the 12 volt outlet I installed a couple years ago in the dinette area. This outlet worked fine, but with the 360 Panel now installed nearby, I had no need for two DC outlets practically next to each other, so I swapped out the outlet for a Blue Sea dual USB port. If you think that this charging port looks familiar, you're right. It's identical to the one found in the 360 Panel.

Installing this dual USB outlet was easy with the wiring previously run, but there were a few small challenges. First, the paneling there was very thin with nothing really substantial to screw into. So I cut myself a piece of thin wood and drill the required size hole to pass the outlet through. With this piece of wood in place the screws and outlet had something to bite into. The outlet is now rock solid. Devising a solution for the last obstacle was simple, but was more difficult to execute. The connections for the outlet are a good 1/2" long and with the outlet mounted would extend past the bottom of the storage cabinet. The obvious solution was the bend these connections, but these are brittle and can be broken if you're not careful. Fortunately, I was able to do this without breaking them and I was able to make the two connections.





Lastly, a dual USB charging port was needed in the cabover area so we could charge our cell phones while we slept. The perfect location was the passenger side nightstand, but with no 12 volt wiring there I needed to tap into a 12 volt source nearby. After exploring several options, I decided to tap into the bedside reading light fixture on the driver side. This was the closest location, and fortunately, the best option because this location turned out to be where the 12 volt junction box for the entire cabover was located.

Running the 12 volt wiring from the junction box to the other side of the bed proved to be the biggest headache. Placing the wires behind the wall like the existing 110 volt AC wires was preferable, but there was no way do it with the camper assembled. The only real option I had was to run the wires along the bottom of the headboard beneath the mattress. This I did protecting the wires with small 1/2" conduit.

Mounting the new charging port was the easiest part of the project. I used a small hole saw attached to my Ryobi to cut the circular hole into the side of the nightstand for the mount. The hole size turned out to be absolutely perfect. The mounted USB charging port looks pretty professional if I do say so myself. Like the 360 Panel wiring, I used female quick disconnects to attach the positive and negative wires to the backside of the charging port. Now we have a bedside location where we can charge our phones while we sleep.

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Mello_Mike
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retireclose wrote:
I'm in the process of running (2) 12v cables for a usb port and a 12v fan. I have two empty spots on the converter(15a) that I tapped into. Where should i put the 15a inline fuse, closer to the converter(source) or closer to the usb/fan port. The run is about 10 ft. and i used number 10 wire.

Any help would be appreciated.


Why are you using an inline fuse if you have two open slots on your converter fuse panel? I would use one of the open slots for your fuse and wire connection.
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retireclose
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I'm in the process of running (2) 12v cables for a usb port and a 12v fan. I have two empty spots on the converter(15a) that I tapped into. Where should i put the 15a inline fuse, closer to the converter(source) or closer to the usb/fan port. The run is about 10 ft. and i used number 10 wire.

Any help would be appreciated.
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Mello_Mike
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This past week I also ordered a new 110v AC outlet with two built-in USB charging ports. I will be swapping out the old inverter outlet with this new one.

Sleepy: Thanks. Let us know how your install goes.

Skipbee: I agree. Soldering is the best way to go. Especially with the rough roads I sometimes take.

hedge: Too bad you have to pay so much, but these outlets will be worth it. Very high quality. Let us know how your install goes.

smkettner: Nice. I'll look into those.

69Avion: Thanks. I've always been happy with their products.

Bedlam: I tried that approach with shrink tubing but it didn't work out that well for me. Guess I need more practice.
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Bedlam
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Mello Mike wrote:

Before running the wires underneath the floor, I first had to prep them for connecting to the panel. Unlike most 12 volt outlets and ports, the Blue Sea panel has four electrical blade connections on the backside, two positive and two negative. Rather than run four sets of separate wires, I decided to run two heavy 12 AWG wires and splice two short wires into these main wires. I spliced the wires by stripping 1/2" of insulation, creating a small gap in the copper strands, inserting another wire into the gap, then twisting the wires together. To make the T-shaped splices permanent I soldered them then wrapped the soldered joint with insulation tape (I prefer shrink tube insulation for soldered connections, but I still haven't figured out a good way to do it for T-shaped soldered joints).


Typically I will slip a piece of heat shrink over the supply wire that is large enough to also slip over the two split wires. If you have doubts that the heat shrink will reduce enough on the feed wire, start by slipping on a piece of smaller diameter heat shrink on the feed wire to build up the diameter of the insulation before shrinking the larger piece.

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69_Avion
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Nice installation. I have used a lot of Blue Sea products in my campers.
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time2roll
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I use these multiple wire connectors. Just a sealed, insulated and permanent as any heat shrink butt connector.

hedge
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I did see these the other day on the amazon site. I've never used them so no idea how well they work.



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Mello_Mike
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I'm not a big fan of scotch locks either for splices. Soldering is the best way to go, IMHO.
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hedge
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I have a bunch of these on order after seeing your mod. I have to pay through the nose for shipping and brokerage to Canada so I made sure I got lots of them.

IMO I'd trust the solder way before using scotch locks.
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D_E_Bishop
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For those of you interested in a better looking and simpler "T" splice, here are two:


The fitting on the left is a "T" tap or Side tap, lay the wire in the groove and close the clamshell. The middle splice is the :T: tap clamshell closed with an insulated spade installed. The right hand splice is a common trailer type splice for one through wire and one short wire.

Yes they do come in various sizes. The yellow would be for 12-10 wire. I buy them at my local electronics supply store. They are online at orvac.com. I don't have the SKU number for them but you can call them, their number is on the website.
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Mello_Mike
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I forgot to mention that the Blue Sea Systems HQ is located in Bellingham, WA. I got to see their operation when we lived there 12 years ago. Great folks who make great American-made products.
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skipbee
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Thanks, Mike for pointing to the Blue Seas gear. I had not seen it before. When we lived and sailed aboard, I learned that only soldered joints lasted, salt got into crimp joints and they eventually failed. We did heat shrink sleeves also.

We spend much time on the beaches of Assateague Island with our TC. It's almost like being at sea, lots of salt air, so we use the best wiring practices we are capable of, soldering is the ticket. Di-electric grease helps where male/female plug connections are needed, TC to truck wires etc.
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sleepy
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Very nice job and great write-up

We use a bunch of USB powered devices... we charge them most of the time with adapters in the cig lighter recepticles

or the the supplied 120 VAC plug adapters when the inverter is on.

I will be adding more outlets in more convenient locations... I have BlueSea outlets on order from Amazon.

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Mello Mike wrote:


Pianotuna: The wire run is only 3 ft long so there shouldn't be much of a loss with that length.



And with the size wire you used, which looks to be 12 AWG, loss at the very low amperage for those circuits is a non issue as well.
Bob

Mello_Mike
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Thanks for the compliments. This was a fun mod installing all of these. I still have a Blue Sea 12v outlet I need to install. Still not sure where I will place it.

Pianotuna: The wire run is only 3 ft long so there shouldn't be much of a loss with that length.

Trail-Explorer: The splices don't look that great with the tape on them, but believe me the connections are bullet proof with the soldering I did.

Boatycall: I bought all of them through Amazon.com. The 360 Panel was $42, the 12v outlets $9 each, and the dual USB ports $18 each.

jmcgsd: They worked fine down to 12.2 volts on one particularly cold morning.

Reddog1: I agree, Wayne, with your line of thinking. I almost went that route myself, but didn't want to throw a non-Blue Sea device into the mix.
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