Build my TV

[bc-00044]

Upgrading from a 27'TT to a 41' 5er. Obviously now also need to trade in my TV for something more capable.
Relying on the collective wisdom of this group for guidance. I do not have any strong brand loyalty beyond american made -- concerned about driving experience, ride comfort, towing capacity for the quoted trailer, and reliability. Make your proposals.
Pretty well set on a diesel, but convince me if I am wrong.
Trailer is 40' UVW 14344 lbs

[Huntindog]

4x4ord wrote:
^^^^The CP4 pump is a poor design but it is only an issue for those who experience a pump failure. Probably have about equal chance of having a pump failure as I do of dying from colon cancer. I’m not going to be overly concerned about either happening.

My father in law had that.

Since we have some good doctors, they see to it that my wife gets checked for it often as a precaution.
When one chooses a truck, they can choose a similar precaution.

[4x4ord]

^^^ That tells me exactly how much you believe a lifetime warranty is worth.

[Cummins12V98]

Jarlaxle wrote:

4x4ord wrote:

Jarlaxle wrote:
Any diesel built today is a bad choice unless it comes with a lifetime-million mile warranty. Since none of them do, all are bad choices.

If you want a lifetime warranty simply trade your truck every 3 years.

At that point, you could just put the cash in a pile and burn it.

He has plenty to burn. :B

[Jarlaxle]

4x4ord wrote:

Jarlaxle wrote:
Any diesel built today is a bad choice unless it comes with a lifetime-million mile warranty. Since none of them do, all are bad choices.

If you want a lifetime warranty simply trade your truck every 3 years.

At that point, you could just put the cash in a pile and burn it.

[4x4ord]

Jarlaxle wrote:
Any diesel built today is a bad choice unless it comes with a lifetime-million mile warranty. Since none of them do, all are bad choices.

If you want a lifetime warranty simply trade your truck every 3 years.

[4x4ord]

^^^^The CP4 pump is a poor design but it is only an issue for those who experience a pump failure. Probably have about equal chance of having a pump failure as I do of dying from colon cancer. I’m not going to be overly concerned about either happening.

[Huntindog]

Grit dog wrote:

bc-00044 wrote:
Upgrading from a 27'TT to a 41' 5er. Obviously now also need to trade in my TV for something more capable.
Relying on the collective wisdom of this group for guidance. I do not have any strong brand loyalty beyond american made -- concerned about driving experience, ride comfort, towing capacity for the quoted trailer, and reliability. Make your proposals.
Pretty well set on a diesel, but convince me if I am wrong.
Trailer is 40' UVW 14344 lbs

And location Denver, CO. Lot's of off track discussion here, but bottom line, 1 ton SRW doable, DRW preferred based on size and weight combination.
Ride comfort, all 3 brands are like sitting in a 400+ hp 1000 ft lb living room especially with the higher trim models.
Gas v diesel, someone suggested gas would be ok. Based on your address and budget/taste, a gasser would be a horrible decision.
Reliability? I won't go there and you can read all the pros and cons.
Personally today, right now, I'd take a 2021 Duramax. Ram fixed the CP4 problem, so Ram 2nd, but not in favor of trans. 8 speed is on the near horizon. Ford, 3rd, well because of the CP4 and because I've talked too much sht about Ford over the years to buy one, although it will do a very fine job as well.

Pretty much my opinion as well.

The CP4 pump IS an issue if you keep it after the warranty is up.

[Jarlaxle]

Any diesel built today is a bad choice unless it comes with a lifetime-million mile warranty. Since none of them do, all are bad choices.

[Cummins12V98]

Jarlaxle wrote:
Probably not needed, but much more enjoyable to drive than a 3500 right at its limit. Pin weight on an 8+ ton (loaded) 5er will be better than 3000lbs. Maybe a 4500...though I'd go 5500 for the extra 3000lbs capacity.

6,000# setting on my truck with the rear axle right at it's RAWR. Does it look on the edge or overloaded? You are talking MUCH less weight. My truck is ROCK SOLID in any and all conditions. Still don't get your logic here.

If you want overkill I guess that's fine but I am at the SAE rating with no issues and a GREAT ride to boot.

Truck sets the same with or without a load with the Factory Rear Air Ride.

[4x4ord]

Jarlaxle wrote:
Probably not needed, but much more enjoyable to drive than a 3500 right at its limit. Pin weight on an 8+ ton (loaded) 5er will be better than 3000lbs. Maybe a 4500...though I'd go 5500 for the extra 3000lbs capacity.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. Have you ever driven a 2021 F350 diesel towing a 16k fiver? A 2021 F350 SRW with 3.31 gears would be much more enjoyable to drive towing 16k than a f550. For those that want duals they would have to settle for 3.55 gears. Ford offers various final drives in their trucks so we can select the best ratio for our needs. 3.31 final drive with the 10 speed and diesel engine for towing a 16k lb fiver are the best choice although 3.55 will perform almost as well.

[Jarlaxle]

Probably not needed, but much more enjoyable to drive than a 3500 right at its limit. Pin weight on an 8+ ton (loaded) 5er will be better than 3000lbs. Maybe a 4500...though I'd go 5500 for the extra 3000lbs capacity.

[Cummins12V98]

Jarlaxle wrote:

bc-00044 wrote:
Upgrading from a 27'TT to a 41' 5er. Obviously now also need to trade in my TV for something more capable.
Relying on the collective wisdom of this group for guidance. I do not have any strong brand loyalty beyond american made -- concerned about driving experience, ride comfort, towing capacity for the quoted trailer, and reliability. Make your proposals.
Pretty well set on a diesel, but convince me if I am wrong.
Trailer is 40' UVW 14344 lbs

Ram 5500, gas 6.4 and Aisin, 4.11 gears.

Or F550, 7.3 gas power.

Please explain the need for a 550 or 5500.

[Jarlaxle]

bc-00044 wrote:
Upgrading from a 27'TT to a 41' 5er. Obviously now also need to trade in my TV for something more capable.
Relying on the collective wisdom of this group for guidance. I do not have any strong brand loyalty beyond american made -- concerned about driving experience, ride comfort, towing capacity for the quoted trailer, and reliability. Make your proposals.
Pretty well set on a diesel, but convince me if I am wrong.
Trailer is 40' UVW 14344 lbs

Ram 5500, gas 6.4 and Aisin, 4.11 gears.

Or F550, 7.3 gas power.

[Cummins12V98]

"Interesting Ford has a HD truck assembled in the USA with an engine built in Mexico.
Ram has a HD truck assembled in Mexico with an engine built in the USA"

ZACTLY

Nothing is perfect. My 98 12V that mu Son has now is US Made, my 01 is Mexico.

Do I wish my current truck was built here?

[Cummins12V98]

FishOnOne wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

bc-00044 wrote:
Upgrading from a 27'TT to a 41' 5er. Obviously now also need to trade in my TV for something more capable.
Relying on the collective wisdom of this group for guidance. I do not have any strong brand loyalty beyond american made -- concerned about driving experience, ride comfort, towing capacity for the quoted trailer, and reliability. Make your proposals.
Pretty well set on a diesel, but convince me if I am wrong.
Trailer is 40' UVW 14344 lbs

I agree with going with a diesel and if "American Made" is your requirement (It's my requirement as well) then GM and Ford is your excellent choices.

Well FISH what about the life of the truck the 6.7 PS that's Made in Mexico???????

The OP wants an American made truck that means only Ford and GM fit's the bill and that's how I roll as well. Perhaps you can sing to the choir who will purchase a foreign built truck from a foreign company that's controlled in Europe that don't reflect our values like your Ram product.

Built for America

I think the GM only fits his bill. Still evading the BIG part of the truck.