โJul-30-2015 11:14 AM
โJul-30-2015 07:04 PM
NC Hauler wrote:
Next time you get around this way, shoot me a PM, maybe we can meet up somewhere, put a face to a name.....
Jim
โJul-30-2015 06:55 PM
RAS43 wrote:Danattherock wrote:
Here's the video I saw of the Hemi 6.4 struggling so miserably.
It was towing 12k lbs up Ike Gauntlet in Colorado. At one point, 30 mph in first gear, and losing speed.
Skip to 15 min and 30 sec and listen.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BeWhXy_ciuM
Dan
Interesting video. Never heard I70 and the tunnels called the Ike Gauntlet. Must be a media thing. Anyway, having traveled that route many times over the years with lighter loads and lesser equipment I was impressed with the run. 30 mph with a 20000+lb gross at 11000 ft elevation was good, IMO.
โJul-30-2015 06:52 PM
โJul-30-2015 06:37 PM
Danattherock wrote:
Here's the video I saw of the Hemi 6.4 struggling so miserably.
It was towing 12k lbs up Ike Gauntlet in Colorado. At one point, 30 mph in first gear, and losing speed.
Skip to 15 min and 30 sec and listen.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BeWhXy_ciuM
Dan
โJul-30-2015 06:26 PM
Danattherock wrote:
Seeing the above post, don't get hot and bothered guys. I really appreciate both of your vantage points. I value both of your well intentioned advice. My lack of insights into diesel motors, and what I will need to tow my first camper are the real problems here. Let's stay focused on the real issue, my ignorance. Im so dumb my hair hurts and my teeth itch.
Jim,
We live in Rockingham. We come through your way often. We take our whitewater raft to Johnson City,Tenn and float and fly fish the Watauga. Spend lots of time in Bryson City too. Floating and fishing the Tuck and mountain biking Tsali. The SW tip of NC and NE tip of Tenn are our favorite areas to play.
Here's the video I saw of the Hemi 6.4 struggling so miserably.
It was towing 12k lbs up Ike Gauntlet in Colorado. At one point, 30 mph in first gear, and losing speed.
Skip to 15 min and 30 sec and listen.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BeWhXy_ciuM
Dan
โJul-30-2015 06:19 PM
โJul-30-2015 06:03 PM
Danattherock wrote:
My only concern is which motor will be most reliable in the years to come.
โJul-30-2015 05:43 PM
โJul-30-2015 05:33 PM
Slowmover wrote:NC Hauler wrote:Slowmover wrote:
2500 with gas motor. 5-link coil rear means better ride and stability. As with others, fears about the standard auto aren't warranted.
Takes a lot of miles to warm up a diesel. Engine oil temp will probably reach op temp at the 45-mile mark while solo (unless the factory has some trickery happening). Then one needs that many more miles to boil off acids.
Low annual miles and light trailer mitigate against diesel. An Airstream needs 20% less HP than a box shape trailer to maintain highway cruise.
And the solo mpg reports are encouraging for the gasser. The percentage fuel cost difference is not favorable for the diesel in this application.
And with long term ownership, years out the gasser will need less in maintenance and repairs. The truck will time out before the gas motor needs replacement.
"Better ride and stability"?? sounds more like "your opinion", based on no facts whatsoever..
Diesel will warm up in about 10 mins or less with EB on, we're talking 2013 and up .. When was the last time you read up on the "modern diesel's" of 2013 and up, or owned one other than your 04'??? Less noise, smoother ride, DEF addition helps reap much better mpg...Low annual miles and light trailer DON'T mitigate against the diesel. :R
Diesel will get better mpg towing and possibly better mpg empty. ...Where are your facts coming from about all this information you've tossed out and won't be able to back when comparing a 6.4 gasser (2014 and up) and the 2013 and up cummins...??
Do you not understand the difference between leaf and linked coil? I guess not.
As to warmup I already qualified the statement. But no diesel warms up as fast as a gasser. Guess you didn't see his normative use.
And you need check fuel reports on the gassers. The percent difference between that and the diesel won't work against initial cost, operative cost and potential eleventh year repairs. The gasser motor is already overkill. You obviously don't understand this last part.
The OP will get what makes him happy. You, on the other hand my friend, need some education as to how the numbers work if spec'g the truck for the job matters. Not to mention suspensions, trailer design, and closer reading of the OPs intended use.
โJul-30-2015 04:53 PM
NC Hauler wrote:Slowmover wrote:
2500 with gas motor. 5-link coil rear means better ride and stability. As with others, fears about the standard auto aren't warranted.
Takes a lot of miles to warm up a diesel. Engine oil temp will probably reach op temp at the 45-mile mark while solo (unless the factory has some trickery happening). Then one needs that many more miles to boil off acids.
Low annual miles and light trailer mitigate against diesel. An Airstream needs 20% less HP than a box shape trailer to maintain highway cruise.
And the solo mpg reports are encouraging for the gasser. The percentage fuel cost difference is not favorable for the diesel in this application.
And with long term ownership, years out the gasser will need less in maintenance and repairs. The truck will time out before the gas motor needs replacement.
"Better ride and stability"?? sounds more like "your opinion", based on no facts whatsoever..
Diesel will warm up in about 10 mins or less with EB on, we're talking 2013 and up .. When was the last time you read up on the "modern diesel's" of 2013 and up, or owned one other than your 04'??? Less noise, smoother ride, DEF addition helps reap much better mpg...Low annual miles and light trailer DON'T mitigate against the diesel. :R
Diesel will get better mpg towing and possibly better mpg empty. ...Where are your facts coming from about all this information you've tossed out and won't be able to back when comparing a 6.4 gasser (2014 and up) and the 2013 and up cummins...??
โJul-30-2015 04:36 PM
Danattherock wrote:
Jim, just saw your sig. Thanks for your service.
โJul-30-2015 04:36 PM
โJul-30-2015 04:32 PM
โJul-30-2015 04:17 PM
Slowmover wrote:
2500 with gas motor. 5-link coil rear means better ride and stability. As with others, fears about the standard auto aren't warranted.
Takes a lot of miles to warm up a diesel. Engine oil temp will probably reach op temp at the 45-mile mark while solo (unless the factory has some trickery happening). Then one needs that many more miles to boil off acids.
Low annual miles and light trailer mitigate against diesel. An Airstream needs 20% less HP than a box shape trailer to maintain highway cruise.
And the solo mpg reports are encouraging for the gasser. The percentage fuel cost difference is not favorable for the diesel in this application.
And with long term ownership, years out the gasser will need less in maintenance and repairs. The truck will time out before the gas motor needs replacement.
โJul-30-2015 04:11 PM