โSep-18-2015 12:20 PM
โSep-21-2015 06:52 AM
bid_time wrote:I feel it a little naive to think manufacturer's published ratings are not slanted by the marketing department. If they want to sell trucks they have to be competitive in a whole bunch of category's, including MSRP and fuel economy.
You're a smart man larry, you knew you were being baited and went for it anyways. You don't get to claim some moral high ground now. "two-faced"? kettle meet pot.
The manufacturer's have designed the truck and they have published ratings to be used for towing (I'd be willing to bet they also publish a safe speed for towing). And towing at 100% of those numbers is not "playing roulette" with lives. Sorry, your "gleaned information" doesn't trump the manufacturer's collective knowledge, testing, and designing.
โSep-21-2015 06:17 AM
Lantley wrote:
I don't dispute anything you've said. I believe in the towing parameters produced by the manufacturers.
Nevertheless I prefer to tow a RV trailer with a 3/4 ton vs. a 1/2 ton based on my experience using both.
โSep-21-2015 05:14 AM
bid_time wrote:
The manufacturer's have designed the truck and they have published ratings to be used for towing (I'd be willing to bet they also publish a safe speed for towing). And towing at 100% of those numbers is not "playing roulette" with lives. Sorry, your "gleaned information" doesn't trump the manufacturer's collective knowledge, testing, and designing.
โSep-21-2015 05:07 AM
โSep-21-2015 04:50 AM
bid_time wrote:
Oh it was indeed a "baited" question (as you of course where well aware of but took the bait anyways). It's interesting that you (from information that you "gleaned") think your years of gleaned information trumps the years of experience of all of the truck manufacturer's engineers. My, that's a pretty big shoulders. The fact of the matter is, there is a magical number(s). The ones the manufacturer's designed and tested for. You can find them in the Owner's manual and they are not pie in the sky made up from one man's "gleaned information". And yes, I am stupider then the collective knowledge of engineers that designed the truck. That's why I don't try to "infer" that just because I tow with an F250, everyone that tows with an F150 is putting their wife and kids in harms way.
Now you can remain silent (save face)under the guise that I am disingenuous.
โSep-21-2015 04:20 AM
โSep-20-2015 08:41 PM
bid_time wrote:
All that was asked Larry, is what percentage is enough, 150%, 200%, 400%? All us stupid people would like to learn something from you that know. Simple question, what's the number?
P.s. I tow with an F250, not that it matters. So that leaves out the "not knowing what I don't know" factor.
โSep-20-2015 07:23 PM
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โSep-20-2015 04:05 PM
TomG2 wrote:
What are you missing? I have no idea. Have you compared it to towing with a F-250 or F-350? I have been going back and forth between half tons and three quarter ton models for the last twenty years. Most of the half tons have been adequate, the three quarter tons have been more than adequate. That's why I tow with a 3/4 ton today. I couldn't care less about fuel mileage or daily driver, I like a great towing experience.
โSep-20-2015 03:06 PM
IdaD wrote:TomG2 wrote:
I suggest that those who think that all pickups are created equal get out of their leather seats and crawl under one some time. The differences between the various models is more than one might think. By now, we all have heard how the ecoboost can pull 10,000-12,000 with the proper hitch, but towing it well might be another matter.
No kidding. For a good laugh take a look at the 8.8" rear axle on most F150s sometime and compare it to the 11.5" rear axles on a HD truck. An Ecoboost makes good power but there's no way I'd want to approach those trailer weights with a half ton. Not with my family on board.
โSep-20-2015 12:40 PM
TomG2 wrote:
I suggest that those who think that all pickups are created equal get out of their leather seats and crawl under one some time. The differences between the various models is more than one might think. By now, we all have heard how the ecoboost can pull 10,000-12,000 with the proper hitch, but towing it well might be another matter.
โSep-20-2015 12:19 PM
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