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albow
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A few years ago the tire shop said I needed Outer tie rods then and inners before too long. I got the outers done and am now going to do the inners. My cousin usually does work on my truck that I am unable to. My steering seems fine. My question is, while I am having him replace the inner tie rods, is there any reason to replace the ball joints or anything in the suspension while he's at it, just for avoiding repeat labor? 2003 Ram 3500 2WD 220,000 miles.
Alan & Tommie. 2003 Dodge 3500 SRW SLT Quad Cab, Cummins 5.9 HO, 6 speed manual and 3.73's. 2007 Pilgrim Legends Mid Profile 33RKS-M5 5th wheel, Prodigy, Superglide 14K hitch (already very glad I got it).
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albow
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Repair work got finished this weekend. No additional front end work appeared to be needed but a leaky power steering pump was found so there's going to be some more money spent soon. Oh well, tis the spending season, right?
Alan & Tommie. 2003 Dodge 3500 SRW SLT Quad Cab, Cummins 5.9 HO, 6 speed manual and 3.73's. 2007 Pilgrim Legends Mid Profile 33RKS-M5 5th wheel, Prodigy, Superglide 14K hitch (already very glad I got it).

Grit_dog
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^ Now that’s funny!
You’re both mis interpreting each other...
2016 Ram 2500, MotorOps.ca EFIlive tuned, 5” turbo back, 6" lift on 37s
2017 Heartland Torque T29 - Sold.
Couple of Arctic Fox TCs - Sold

Ron3rd
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albow wrote:
Ron3rd wrote:
albow wrote:
Well, it looks split on the ball joints, which was what I was thinking maybe on too. My cousin said he'd check them while fixing and I'll wait if still good. Thanks.


Replace the ball joints, it's time at 220K. A Broken ball joint is not something I would expose my family to. Park the truck until you can fix it right. JMO
No, nothing is split on the ball joints other than opinion. Truck still drives fine.


Best wishes to you.
2016 6.7 CTD 2500 BIG HORN MEGA CAB
2013 Forest River 3001W Windjammer
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Honda EU2000

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albow
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Ron3rd wrote:
albow wrote:
Well, it looks split on the ball joints, which was what I was thinking maybe on too. My cousin said he'd check them while fixing and I'll wait if still good. Thanks.


Replace the ball joints, it's time at 220K. A Broken ball joint is not something I would expose my family to. Park the truck until you can fix it right. JMO
No, nothing is split on the ball joints other than opinion. Truck still drives fine.
Alan & Tommie. 2003 Dodge 3500 SRW SLT Quad Cab, Cummins 5.9 HO, 6 speed manual and 3.73's. 2007 Pilgrim Legends Mid Profile 33RKS-M5 5th wheel, Prodigy, Superglide 14K hitch (already very glad I got it).

Ron3rd
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albow wrote:
Well, it looks split on the ball joints, which was what I was thinking maybe on too. My cousin said he'd check them while fixing and I'll wait if still good. Thanks.


Replace the ball joints, it's time at 220K. A Broken ball joint is not something I would expose my family to. Park the truck until you can fix it right. JMO
2016 6.7 CTD 2500 BIG HORN MEGA CAB
2013 Forest River 3001W Windjammer
Equilizer Hitch
Honda EU2000

"I have this plan to live forever; so far my plan is working"

Perrysburg_Dodg
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donn0128 wrote:
Your lucky you dont have a 4x4. Look up Dodge death wobble. At 220K miles I would be looking at rebuilding the entire front end.


LOL or Ford and GM death wobble, they all do it!

OP pay them now or pay them later but you will be paying for an alignment each time! At 220K you should be looking ate upper and lower ball joints IMO. Just a heads up, it took me two days to replace the hubs on my 2004 2500 Ram! Make sure whoever does them cleans the pockets out and applies a good amount of never-seez, I used the copper base and stay with the MoPar hubs, the cheep-o ones last about six mouths!!! Was real happy I had used the Never-seez!

Don
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Kevin_Todd
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Just got my '02 2500 back from the shop. Lower control arms, pitman arm, stabilizer shock, upper ball joints (3rd set) tie rod ends. 290k, never had the death wobble, just a lot of slack in the steering. It is a 4x4. Drives a lot better, but isn't as tight or responsive as I'd hoped.
Kevin and Beth Todd
2016 Jayco Pinnacle 38 FLSA
2019 Ram 3500 Longhorn

albow
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fj12ryder wrote:
If you're not really sure what parts you need, it might be best to leave it to the guys doing the job. Advise them what brands you want, and you know about how much it should cost so you should be good. JMO of course.
That's what I'm doing. I'm running the list by him but he's having trouble with some of it too. Weird. Just a lot of things listed.
Alan & Tommie. 2003 Dodge 3500 SRW SLT Quad Cab, Cummins 5.9 HO, 6 speed manual and 3.73's. 2007 Pilgrim Legends Mid Profile 33RKS-M5 5th wheel, Prodigy, Superglide 14K hitch (already very glad I got it).

fj12ryder
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If you're not really sure what parts you need, it might be best to leave it to the guys doing the job. Advise them what brands you want, and you know about how much it should cost so you should be good. JMO of course.
Howard and Peggy

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albow
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Hey, there are several different looking pics of inner tie rod ends that supposedly fit my truck. Not sure which I need. Is this it? It says so but with all the different looking pics I don't know. https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=1057062&cc=1413559&jsn=2408&jsn=2408&jsn=2408&jsn=2408&jsn=2408
Alan & Tommie. 2003 Dodge 3500 SRW SLT Quad Cab, Cummins 5.9 HO, 6 speed manual and 3.73's. 2007 Pilgrim Legends Mid Profile 33RKS-M5 5th wheel, Prodigy, Superglide 14K hitch (already very glad I got it).

albow
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Well, it looks split on the ball joints, which was what I was thinking maybe on too. My cousin said he'd check them while fixing and I'll wait if still good. Thanks.
Alan & Tommie. 2003 Dodge 3500 SRW SLT Quad Cab, Cummins 5.9 HO, 6 speed manual and 3.73's. 2007 Pilgrim Legends Mid Profile 33RKS-M5 5th wheel, Prodigy, Superglide 14K hitch (already very glad I got it).

albow
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donn0128 wrote:
Your lucky you dont have a 4x4. Look up Dodge death wobble. At 220K miles I would be looking at rebuilding the entire front end.
Yeah, I've heard about that.
Alan & Tommie. 2003 Dodge 3500 SRW SLT Quad Cab, Cummins 5.9 HO, 6 speed manual and 3.73's. 2007 Pilgrim Legends Mid Profile 33RKS-M5 5th wheel, Prodigy, Superglide 14K hitch (already very glad I got it).

Grit_dog
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Not alot of repeat labor to unhook the tie rods in the future. Like 5 minutes a piece.
2016 Ram 2500, MotorOps.ca EFIlive tuned, 5” turbo back, 6" lift on 37s
2017 Heartland Torque T29 - Sold.
Couple of Arctic Fox TCs - Sold

transamz9
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You normally have to buy upper control arms the first time you change ball joints. Not a big deal though.
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