I wonder if the Ford frame issue will affect the HD's?

[RobertRyan]

It seems the lack of frames is becoming a major issue at Ford. Could this impact on the new HD F250/350's which will have similar alloy frames?
Ford Frame problems
Definitely hurting F150 sales, how about to be released HD's?

DailyTech - Ford’s Use of Aluminum Bodies to Extend to Super Duty Trucks, Chrysler Doubles Ram EcoDiesel Production

Earlier this year Ford unveiled the 2015 F-150 that makes extensive use of aluminum for the body structure in an effort to reduce weight (and improve fuel economy). In fact, 95 percent of the F-150’s body structure is comprised of aluminum alloys.

An apples-to-apples comparison of 2014 F-150 Lariat Crewcab 4x4 and a 2015 Lariat Crewcab 4x4 showed that the latter tipped the scales at 4,942 pounds — 732 pounds less than its predecessor.

Ford is looking to take the lessons learned from the development of the half-ton F-150 and apply them to the next generation of rugged Super Duty pickups. Ford exec Raj Nair confirmed on Monday at the company's investor conference that the next generation Super Duty will switch to an aluminum body.

Ford HD Alloy bodies From Daily Tech

[RobertRyan]

pappcam wrote:
Seems the OP has an agenda in every post and comment he makes. Is there some "international" RV forum somewhere where his thinly veiled shots at the truck and RV industry in North America would be welcomed?

No they are not welcomed, and it is not an agenda it is happening now with the F150, , so others think that there could be a problem

[IdaD]

ShinerBock wrote:

mich800 wrote:
So the F150's don't use the same twisty frames the HD's use like the post title implies 🙂

This post is for my Ram friends.

Ram use that very same "twisty" C-channel frame in their 3500/4500/5500 cab and chassis models to make up-fitting easier. They use fully boxed in their pickup models which is more rigid(less flex) than C-channel frames. A frames rigidness should not be confused with its strength. It is just an inherent property of C-channel frames that they flex more than fully boxed frames, but fully boxed frames are a PITA to up-fit a flat bed or utility without cutting into it which would weaken the frame. This is why Ford uses C-channel frame sections in the bed sections of all their Super Duty truck to please their fleet buyers and up-fitters.

Edit - nevermind. Misread the post.

[shepstone]

boxed frames can also rust out quicker

[ShinerBock]

mich800 wrote:
So the F150's don't use the same twisty frames the HD's use like the post title implies 🙂

This post is for my Ram friends.

Ram use that very same "twisty" C-channel frame in their 3500/4500/5500 cab and chassis models to make up-fitting easier. They use fully boxed in their pickup models which is more rigid(less flex) than C-channel frames. A frames rigidness should not be confused with its strength. It is just an inherent property of C-channel frames that they flex more than fully boxed frames, but fully boxed frames are a PITA to up-fit a flat bed or utility without cutting into it which would weaken the frame. This is why Ford uses C-channel frame sections in the bed sections of all their Super Duty truck to please their fleet buyers and up-fitters.

[mich800]

So the F150's don't use the same twisty frames the HD's use like the post title implies 🙂

This post is for my Ram friends.

[ShinerBock]

pappcam wrote:
Seems the OP has an agenda in every post and comment he makes. Is there some "international" RV forum somewhere where his thinly veiled shots at the truck and RV industry in North America would be welcomed?

Exactly! I am glad I am not the only one that sees his posts fr what they truly are.

[hone_eagle]

pappcam wrote:
Seems the OP has an agenda in every post and comment he makes. Is there some "international" RV forum somewhere where his thinly veiled shots at the truck and RV industry in North America would be welcomed?

Agreed

Suppose it is a faint hope he just is ignored ?

Might get bored and amuse himself somewhere else

[Hannibal]

I hope the demand stays high and grows. You go Ford!!!

[pappcam]

Seems the OP has an agenda in every post and comment he makes. Is there some "international" RV forum somewhere where his thinly veiled shots at the truck and RV industry in North America would be welcomed?

[philh]

If they are not available in inventory, makes it tough to sell

DETROIT -- Production of the redesigned, aluminum-bodied Ford F-150 has been slowed by a shortage of frames from a supplier’s plant in Kentucky, according to workers and a UAW official.

They said Ford has canceled some planned overtime at the two plants that build the pickup and sent workers there home early multiple times in the past few months.

“Demand for our F-150 is sky high. Frames continue to hold both truck plants back from running overtime days on the weekend,” Todd Hillyard, the bargaining chairman of Ford’s Kansas City Assembly Plant with UAW Local 249, wrote on Facebook today.

http://www.autonews.com/article/20150529/OEM01/150529839/ford-f-150-output-pinched-by-frame-shortage-workers-say

[fla-gypsy]

I think I will subscribe to this thread and ressurect it in the future (when the sales numbers completely flip, and they will) to show just how stupid some of these comments are.

[Cummins12V98]

MARK VANDERBENT wrote:
Ford just keeps the same model so long they forget how messy bringing a whole new model out can be. Lot bigger deal than just changing headlights and bumpers and dashes. f250 has had that same platform since 99

Hey if people keep buying em why change?

[Powerdude]

I love popcorn threads !

Would anybody like any butter?

[Bedlam]

The closest F150 to the Ranger in size was the Tremor with a standard cab and 6.5' bed running the 3.5L EcoBoost.

http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/2014/gallery/photos/tremor/

http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/2014/gallery/photos/tremor/popup/photo/

None for 2015:

http://www.torquenews.com/106/2015-ford-f150-needs-tremor-package

http://blog.caranddriver.com/ford-f-150-tremor-model-wont-carry-over-to-2015-raptor-could-be-cut-too...