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Looking for part time TV for under $20K

GearHead36
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I'm looking to get a truck to use for commuting, light utility work (stops at Lowe's, moving furniture to & from storage unit, etc), and part time towing. My wife and I would like to get a TT or FW, but we don't really plan on getting a big one. We have one child still living at home, and are a couple of years from being empty nesters, so we won't be needing something capable of sleeping 6. I suspect we'll stay under 10K lbs. This is on the high side for a 1/2 ton, so I'm favoring a 3/4 or 1 ton. And for the near future, I'll still be working, so we won't be full-timers. Most of the driving will likely be on my 9 mile daily commute. I also want some decent range on a tank of fuel. We live in an area prone to tornadoes. A few years ago, we lost power for about a week. Luckily, we had a vehicle with almost a full tank, and we had a place to go. We had to drive about 100 miles before we could get fuel. I would like to be able to get at least 100 miles on half a tank while towing. 150 or 200 would be better.

We don't plan on towing over 10000' mountain passes either. Most of our trips will likely be relatively flat roads to the beach.

Historically, I've been a Ford guy. Years ago, I wanted an F250/F350 with a 7.3 turbo diesel. Seems that they were always too expensive or had 300K miles. In looking over the various year models from Ford, I find that the 7.3's have the best reputation (by FAR) for being the most reliable. The 6.0's are the worst. The 6.4's and 6.7's are a bit better, but still aren't as good as the 7.3's. And the 7.3's are priced accordingly. My research has also shown that V10's have about the same tow ratings, but I know very little about their reliability and cost to operate. I've read through some of the "Diesel vs gas" thread (no, I haven't read all 400+ pages), and from the discussions there, the diesels are still cheaper in the long run than the big gas engines if you do a lot of towing. However, reading about problems with some of the Ford engines, I'm not sure that this is true for all of them. Then I came across ***Link Removed***this article (http://gearheads.org/15-used-pickup-trucks-you-should-avoid-at-all-cost/). According to that one, there are a LOT of lemons in the truck world.

I'm more interested in total cost of ownership and cost to operate vs mpg's. There's more to the cost of operating a vehicle than fuel economy. This was driven home with me a few years ago when I was into motorcycles. The maintenance costs on a high performance motorcycle (mostly tires) can exceed the fuel costs.

I also read about Cummins "common rail injectors", and how they're $5000 to replace. And I realize that there's a lot I don't know about diesels.

I've also historically not been a fan of Chevy's, but in this case, I'm looking for a tool to do a job. So whatever gives me the best bang for the buck.

I briefly considered SUV's like the Expedition. Some of them can tow over 9K. But I need the utility of a truck.

I'm no longer sold on Ford being the best. I'm not convinced that I need a diesel, but I'm also not convinced that I don't need one either. Due to the likelihood of it being used mostly for commuting, I'm favoring a gasser. I do know that I do NOT want a dually. Those things are great if you do a LOT of towing, and nothing else. But if I had to drive one to work every day, I think I'd be hating it. So... instead of asking on a mfr specific forum, I thought I'd ask here. You folks should be more knowledgeable on what's needed to meet the demands I'll be facing.

What would you guys recommend?
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hellfirehydra
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Chuck_thehammer wrote:
look into returned Fleet/Lease trucks...

F 250 or F 350.. Chevy and Dodge.. with Gas engines.. and if possible NO 4x4.. but not so easy to find these days...

but are available.. I got mine last year..

2012 F 250.. 6.2L Gas 2 wheel drive.. fleet/lease .. rated to tow 12,500 pounds
and remember many these days also have Hour meters.. check that.

mine 136,000 miles and 4,100 hours. aka a freeway truck ๐Ÿ™‚


How'd you find yours and what did you pay for it?



In my neck of the woods, HD trucks maintain value for a long time! Because of this, it is hard to find a well maintained diesel for <$20k unless you're willing to go pretty high up in the mileage department or way back in the years.


I'd say a gasser is probably more realistic for <$20k. All of the big 3 put out good gas engines. I'd stay away from the 5.4L's in the older Fords(not because of any inherent problems, just lack of power for towing 9k lbs).

The V10 Ford engine is an absolutely reliable great engine and I would probably lean that direction if able.

Something like this:

F250 V10

Chuck_thehammer
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look into returned Fleet/Lease trucks...

F 250 or F 350.. Chevy and Dodge.. with Gas engines.. and if possible NO 4x4.. but not so easy to find these days...

but are available.. I got mine last year..

2012 F 250.. 6.2L Gas 2 wheel drive.. fleet/lease .. rated to tow 12,500 pounds
and remember many these days also have Hour meters.. check that.

mine 136,000 miles and 4,100 hours. aka a freeway truck ๐Ÿ™‚

Turtle_n_Peeps
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Great first post!

You have all the info we need to give you a good answer.

First the gas engines and trucks. All very good and reliable trucks IMHO. Pick out a good used one and you're good to go. The Ford 6.2 is a great engine! But so is the Hemi and 6.0 Chevy. If power is your gig the Ford or Hemi puts out the most.


Now the diesels. You did your homework I can tell. And you're right on track with what you know. I would avoid the LB7 duramax unless the injectors were replaced. It's a 5K+ job and they will fail because the injectors were junk in those engines. If they are replaced the engine is fine.

You already know about the 6.0 so I won't go there. Same with the 6.4. I would not go with an early 14 down 6.7 because they had a bunch of problems too. LLY is a good engine and the LBZ is the best.
The Dodge truck with a Cummins is a great engine too but usually they
The 7.3 is a great engine. Down on power for today but none the less a great engine! You won't need power for where you're towing anyway. want $ for them because they are so good and last a long time.
You can also tune them for more power if you want. The bad thing is they are very old. Everything in that truck is going to be old. The tranny's weren't known to be the best around either.

For your deal a diesel would be nice because you can store diesel a long time before it goes bad. It will also pull down about 30% better mileage. You can pretty much get either a gas or a diesel for what you're doing.

Good luck and happy hunting!
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Jebby14
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this has triton v10 gasser all over it. pay attention to payload numbers
Q: Whats brown and sticky???

A: A Stick....

JoeGood988
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Look into repo trucks...a bank or other listings...I bought a repo Chevy diesel, dually, 3500 for $20,000..2008...60,000 miles in Arizona. Retirement areas have good vehicles that family has taken away vehicles or tow vehicles that have to be sold due to age or health....check out the options
2003 3330 Jayco Legacy

1jeep
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2011 ford super duty with 6.2 gas engine is more than capable to tow 10k as is the GM 6.0 in the 2500 or 3500. Im sure the Ram with the 6.4 hemi in the 2500/3500 will tow it also.

Im on my second ford 6.7, upgraded to a dually don't worry you wont find one near the $20k price! my pervious 2011 crew cab lariat with 110k miles got me $30k on trade last year. There is nothing wrong with the ford 6.7 so don't start grouping it in the 6.oh no.

Your best bet is any of the 3 gas engines, cab and options will determine the price.
2016 Ford F350 crew cab dually 6.7 platinum with heavy tow and 4:30 gears
2015 Carbon 327 with a BMW k1600 and Canam 1k inside