New Ford Expedition with V6

[travelnman]

Anyone towed with the new Ford Expedition with the V6. Would
really like to hear how well things are going. Can that
6 cylinder actually pull a seven or eight thousand lb TT. I find
it almost impossible to believe that there would be enough torque
to do the job but bravo to Ford if they accomplished this. Ratings
are good so far but before I put down over sixty grand I would
like to get some advice good or bad. Right now I'm pulling a
28 foot KEYSTONE Springdale with UVW of 6,200lbs using a 2004
Burbon 3.73 axel and 5.3 liter. It does OK but those hills in
Branson are a challenge so I have been exploring new vehicles.
My burbon only has 290hp but Ford claims 365 out of this new six.
That is some engineering but I'm wondering if the claims are
true or they have some new way of determining HP.

[rjstractor]

Lessmore wrote:
When it comes to towing 80,000 lbs. plus, here's also gearing and liters, among other things. Don't most highway tractors have around 12 to 16 liters of displacement that is turbocharged ?

Yes, there was a little sarcasm in that comment. Those motors are turbocharged and huge, but still only six cylinders.

[Lessmore]

rjstractor wrote:
There are lots of testimonials to how much the Ecoboost V6 can tow. No magic to it really, adding turbocharging to a small engine makes it perform (and burn fuel) like a bigger one. Yes, this V6 has considerably more horsepower and torque than your 5.3 V8. There's a lot more to the equation than number of cylinders, there are 6 cylinder trucks moving over 80,000 pounds every on the roads. 😉

When it comes to towing 80,000 lbs. plus, here's also gearing and liters, among other things. Don't most highway tractors have around 12 to 16 liters of displacement that is turbocharged ?

[BenK]

Just remember or my assumption is that you are going to compare a
new Ford vs your 11-12 year old Sub

Nothing wrong with either, but I'm a GM fan over Ford and not blindly loyal

Unless you just want a Ford, then you'll find many saying 'go for it'...or if you
really wish to compare 2016's, then check out this site and assume Ford has
one likewise...couldn't find one at the Ford site

GM Competitive Comparison

Looks very close with a 1%-3% edge to Ford on their V6, but nothing major. Then
their MPG's goes to GM with a similar difference between them.

Surprised me that the Suburban is shorter than the Expedition, but also has more
headroom inside.

Direction injection leaves the Toyota behind, but they will have direct injection soon

So similar..boils down to which one you like best, get the better deal on, etc

[Campfire_Time]

Then again you are comparing a 2004 5.3 to a late model Ford Ecoboost. Hardly a fair comparison considering that the 2007+ 5.3 had 315 hp, and the 2014+ 5.3 has 355 hp. The later being a bit more of an apples to apples compo.

That said the Ford Ecoboost V6 is proving to be a great engine and is certainly worth looking at.

[rhagfo]

rexlion wrote:
The low end torque of the turbocharged V6 will make you wonder why you took so long to switch away from the Burb's 5.3L. You will be laughing at those Branson hills, and at the Rocky Mountains too.

Don't think of number of Cylinders, or even displacement, the EcoBoost will surprise you with pulling power.

[rexlion]

The low end torque of the turbocharged V6 will make you wonder why you took so long to switch away from the Burb's 5.3L. You will be laughing at those Branson hills, and at the Rocky Mountains too.

[rjstractor]

There are lots of testimonials to how much the Ecoboost V6 can tow. No magic to it really, adding turbocharging to a small engine makes it perform (and burn fuel) like a bigger one. Yes, this V6 has considerably more horsepower and torque than your 5.3 V8. There's a lot more to the equation than number of cylinders, there are 6 cylinder trucks moving over 80,000 pounds every on the roads. 😉