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Problem with new trailer, or is it the grandson?

RSD559
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Brought home our new trailer yesterday. Three of our grandkids showed up today to check it out. Our 8 year grandson discovered the ladder on the back and sure enough he was crawling around up on the roof. What do you do to keep grandkids and other folks off of your ladder? Product info would be much appreciated. And yes, he got a swat on the butt from his mom when he came down.
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DownTheAvenue
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Great idea here!

Wrap the ladder steps and side supports with many layers of barbed wire, or better yet razor wire. Wrapped thusly, a kid will not put his hands on the ladder to climb!

Jack_Diane_Free
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If you did not want the ladder anyway, why not just remove it?

Timtation
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RSD559 wrote:
Brought home our new trailer yesterday. Three of our grandkids showed up today to check it out. Our 8 year grandson discovered the ladder on the back and sure enough he was crawling around up on the roof. What do you do to keep grandkids and other folks off of your ladder? Product info would be much appreciated. And yes, he got a swat on the butt from his mom when he came down.

Was there any reason for him to know that he shouldn't climb the ladder? Is he a problem normally, is he a problem product of his parents? If not ask him if he saw anything up there that you should be concerned about and explain the safety aspects of the roof resort. I've been known to sleep on the hardtop of my cruiser anchored in the middle of the river and I recommend it to others, fresh air, no bugs and hope the rails prevent you from rolling over the edge. Grandparents and 8 year old kids should have a symbiotic relationship, helps make the ages blend. If the kid's a basic pitha then Gramps probably has a problem with child rearing and nothing posted here is going to help. No mine are not perfect but I accept that.

Lantley
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Nomad
toedtoes wrote:
Lantley wrote:
Somehow I expect the kid to recognize the RV was not a playground and the ladder was not a set of monkey bars. Did any of the adults climb the ladder?
Could the kid not comprehend that the family was checking out grandpa's RV and that he should stay with the adults vs. going off on his own. The kids was 8 not 3. At that point he is old enough to comprehend the situation and understand right from wrong.
I guess everyone was raised differently. I guarantee my kids would have not behaved that way and neither would I.
But at the end of the day maybe I was disciplined and raised to adhere to a higher standard.


Yes, he's 8 not 3. Why would he need to stand at attention at his parents' side all that time? He was just looking around.
How is that wrong? How does that equate to him not being disciplined? How does that equate to his not knowing right from wrong?

Somehow I doubt that the majority of folks on this forum would have known at 8 years old that a trailer ladder was not for climbing up to walk on the roof. And I doubt most would have thought they were doing something so obviously wrong by doing that.

But then I'm not 188 years old with a brain so wizzened it can't remember being a kid.

I certainly remember being a kid. I just had more discipline and common sense that I knew better than to climb up the ladder to the roof of the RV.
If my young mind even thought of it, all it took was a look from my parents for me to grasp that it wasn't a good idea.
It didn't take me until I was a teenager to understand right from wrong I knew an RV was not my playground:S
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DutchmenSport
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RSD559 wrote:
... but we have 13 other grandchildren who we will be traveling to see in the next few weeks. ... I don't dare step on the thing. ...


If you will not be using the ladder yourself, but yet it's already installed on your camper, they why not put it to "work" for you.

Not only an easy solution to detour the kids from climbing on it, but also has many other functional uses. Anyone who has read my posts and comments very long knows that I am a very strong advocate for having items in the camper, and all camping gear that serves multiple purposes. For example, a pair of meat cutting scissors is all you need in a camper because it will also cut metal wire, paper, plastic, thread, cloth, rope. So why carry a dozen different types of scissors that takes up room that needed for something else, when one single set of good butcher block knives (with the scissors) will do it all? Not to mention, why carry a hammer when you've got one already built into a hatchet head? You get the idea?

So, with your ladder, you have a lot of options for things you could use it for, and all of these serves a double purpose. Not only for holding something, but as a deterrent for the kids climb on it. Here's one that's easy, easy to remove when traveling, and DEFINITELY something you'll find comes in VERY VERY handy .... especially with 13 grandkids coming along! If I had a ladder myself, I'd make one of these in a heartbeat! With 13 grandkid along sometime, your going to need clothsline space! I guarantee it, especially the first time you let them go swimming! Not to mention all the towels you'll be going through for showers, muddy feet, bed-wetting, and who knows what else!

We do a lot of camping at Indiana State Recreation Areas (as well as state parks). But most of the Recreation Areas are along bodies of water and the attraction is for boaters. Campsites are usually bigger to accommodate a boat and a camper. Over the years, I have seen many, many, many boat campers use a variation of this (photo below) to hang swim suits and towels on. (and those that don't, hang them on the sides of their boats, over the boat windshields, all over their picnic tables, in the trees, and everywhere else they can.) So, it really is a useful modification.



The other thing I'm seeing more and more of, more with trailers that don't have ladders, are folks attaching something like this to their trailer bumpers. If you did this, it would block the ladder, plus give you that clothsline space. Easy to remove when traveling, and serves a pretty good purpose.

deltabravo
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Do the same thing you did when you were raising your grandson's parent... when they do stuff they shouldn't be doing, tell them to stop doing it. If they don't listen, discipline them.
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RSD559
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I'm pretty sure Lincoln will not do it again, but we have 13 other grandchildren who we will be traveling to see in the next few weeks. The ladder is the one option I really didn't want. I'm over 300 pounds, so I don't dare step on the thing. From what I can gather, the weight limit is like 250 pounds. Maybe if I hold on with one hand and one foot it'll be within the limit. The cover linked to by Dougr5150 is the only one I've seen. We'll keep looking. Thanks for all of the grandparenting tips. I do appreciate it.
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dougr5150
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https://www.walmart.com/search/?query=564113233

DutchmenSport
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toedtoes wrote:
Lantley wrote:


...

But then I'm not 188 years old with a brain so wizzened it can't remember being a kid.


For some reason, I get this feeling that you were a pretty wild rascal yourself back then ....

Lantley
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toedtoes wrote:
Lantley wrote:
Somehow I expect the kid to recognize the RV was not a playground and the ladder was not a set of monkey bars. Did any of the adults climb the ladder?
Could the kid not comprehend that the family was checking out grandpa's RV and that he should stay with the adults vs. going off on his own. The kids was 8 not 3. At that point he is old enough to comprehend the situation and understand right from wrong.
I guess everyone was raised differently. I guarantee my kids would have not behaved that way and neither would I.
But at the end of the day maybe I was disciplined and raised to adhere to a higher standard.


Yes, he's 8 not 3. Why would he need to stand at attention at his parents' side all that time? He was just looking around.
How is that wrong? How does that equate to him not being disciplined? How does that equate to his not knowing right from wrong?

Somehow I doubt that the majority of folks on this forum would have known at 8 years old that a trailer ladder was not for climbing up to walk on the roof. And I doubt most would have thought they were doing something so obviously wrong by doing that.

But then I'm not 188 years old with a brain so wizzened it can't remember being a kid.

How old does he need to be to know better? If his actions were not out of line this post would not exist!
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toedtoes
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bobndot wrote:
Product info would be much appreciated. And yes, he got a swat on the butt from his mom when he came down. [/]

Maybe i misunderstood the OP . I thought the OP was looking for something to install on the ladder (like a piece of plywood covering the rungs) in case another child would try this while the TT was not occupied . I was thinking he knows it was wrong and the mother realized it too because discipline of some type soon followed .
Yes, it only takes a split second for something to go wrong and the adults were distracted when it happened. Thankfully, no injuries occurred and a lesson was learned by ALL involved.


I agree. I don't think this was grandpa thinking his grandson was vandalizing or destroying his trailer. I think grandpa was just looking to see if there was something to prevent what he assumed was a common problem. I suspect it isn't a common problem and he'll never
have another kid climbing his trailer ladder to the roof (unless he has another grandson coming along in age...).
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toedtoes
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Lantley wrote:
Somehow I expect the kid to recognize the RV was not a playground and the ladder was not a set of monkey bars. Did any of the adults climb the ladder?
Could the kid not comprehend that the family was checking out grandpa's RV and that he should stay with the adults vs. going off on his own. The kids was 8 not 3. At that point he is old enough to comprehend the situation and understand right from wrong.
I guess everyone was raised differently. I guarantee my kids would have not behaved that way and neither would I.
But at the end of the day maybe I was disciplined and raised to adhere to a higher standard.


Yes, he's 8 not 3. Why would he need to stand at attention at his parents' side all that time? He was just looking around.
How is that wrong? How does that equate to him not being disciplined? How does that equate to his not knowing right from wrong?

Somehow I doubt that the majority of folks on this forum would have known at 8 years old that a trailer ladder was not for climbing up to walk on the roof. And I doubt most would have thought they were doing something so obviously wrong by doing that.

But then I'm not 188 years old with a brain so wizzened it can't remember being a kid.
1975 American Clipper RV with Dodge 360 (photo in profile)
1998 American Clipper Fold n Roll Folding Trailer
Both born in Morgan Hill, CA to Irv Perch (Daddy of the Aristocrat trailers)

Lantley
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Nomad
Somehow I expect the kid to recognize the RV was not a playground and the ladder was not a set of monkey bars. Did any of the adults climb the ladder?
Could the kid not comprehend that the family was checking out grandpa's RV and that he should stay with the adults vs. going off on his own. The kids was 8 not 3. At that point he is old enough to comprehend the situation and understand right from wrong.
I guess everyone was raised differently. I guarantee my kids would have not behaved that way and neither would I.
But at the end of the day maybe I was disciplined and raised to adhere to a higher standard.
19'Duramax w/hips, 2022 Alliance Paradigm 390MP >BD3,r,22" Blackstone
r,RV760 w/BC20,Glow Steps, Enduraplas25,Pedego
BakFlip,RVLock,Prog.50A surge ,Hughes autoformer
Porta Bote 8.0 Nissan, Sailun S637

toedtoes
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Lantley wrote:
toedtoes wrote:
Ductape wrote:
What a bunch of killjoys hang around here... as a boy I climbed trees and got on the roof of the house. Nobody had a hissy fit.

When the kids park themselves in front of a game console all day, I bet the same ones will complain about that too.


This isn't even like climbing on the roof of a house which most kids have to do in creative ways (climbing the tree, then swinging over to the roof, etc.). This was simply a kid who was checking out the trailer, saw a ladder and climbed it.

Why would he even think the ladder wasn't meant to be climbed - that's what ladders are for! It's not like he spray-painted the outside, or took apart the hitch, or opened the black tank valve. He just climbed a ladder. Big whoop. Explain to him that a trailer roof isn't meant to hold his weight, that the ladder is there for emergency use only to access the A/C, and let it go. He's not a hellion running around undisciplined, he's a curious 8 year old kid.

I guess if I left my car door unlocked,he could go inside because that's what kids do:S Not in my world.
My work van has a ladder on it. Can he climb that as well?
Surprising to me how many think the kids actions were OK.



I agree if the kid was not invited, but from what the OP states, the kid didn't go snoop where he wasn't allowed - he was part of the family that was invited to "check out his new trailer". I don't see where his actions IN THIS SITUATION make him out to be a horrid brat.

As such, I think a simple explanation on the function of the ladder and the strength of the roof is sufficient to prevent it from happening again.

Surprising to me how many think the kid's actions were tantamount to vandalism or criminal.
1975 American Clipper RV with Dodge 360 (photo in profile)
1998 American Clipper Fold n Roll Folding Trailer
Both born in Morgan Hill, CA to Irv Perch (Daddy of the Aristocrat trailers)

time2roll
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Explain it is a tool not a toy. Set boundaries and stick to them.
Or no camping for you 😉