โJun-28-2015 01:34 PM
โJun-30-2015 07:13 PM
FishOnOne wrote:rhagfo wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:Bionic Man wrote:
This is turning into another example of how forums like this are by far the exception to what happens in mainstream America.
I would be willing to venture a guess that less than 10% of people change their own oil in their cars. And it is probably MUCH less than that. I am not sure I personally know anyone who changes their own oil. And unless I go on a Fish story, where a friend of an aquainatance of a neighbors dogsitters cousin, I have never heard of a true problem caused by an incompetent tech. I know they are out there, but they are far from rampant.
I have 4 vehicles plus a couple of boats in my "personal fleet" of vehicles. I change the oil in my fishing boat, but nothing else. The worst thing that has happend in having someone else change the oil is Grease Monkey didn't correctly reattach the air dam on my wife's 300 one time. Quick trip back to them, and it was fixed.
That is 25 plus years of driving, who knows how many cars.
More power to those that have the time and inclination to do their own oil changes. But having someone do the service for you is far from the riskiest thing you will do in the day.
My Daughter worked art Walmart changing tires and oil. She is a smart gal but the stories she told me about the Monkeys she worked with were amazing. I personally know someone that had their oil pan replaced by Walmart because they stripped the plug.
I like to know my vehicles inside and out. Get underneath it and look it over once in a while like when changing oil.
I agree 100%!
As a kid I worked on my own vehicles to save money, now I work on them as therapy! ๐
I agree too. I actually enjoy changing the oil on our vehicles.
Note: Vehicles that require standard methods to perform an oil change that is.
โJun-30-2015 07:04 PM
FishOnOne wrote:mich800 wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:up2nogood wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:FishOnOne wrote:
Excuse me while I let you fan boys pass the Kool-Aid around! :W
Well Fish I am happy for you that you have a truck that the oil filter is easier to change and has nice mirrors.
But for me the extra 10 minutes it may take to change my oil is a minor inconvenience and I think I proved with my post it's really not a big deal to change the oil on a 13-15 RAM.
I think you are being kind here with the ten minute extra. I have to disagree, I've changed the oil three times now on my 2014 Ram, and although I'm getting better at it, and yes I have done it the way you showed, thats nothing new when changing the oil on these new Rams. At best its still a pita .
So you removed the steel pipe at the top? It is easily a 10 minute job the way I did it.
"Nothing new" ?
Please show me where anyone has posted the way I did it. Everyone removes the hose down low and fight getting it re connected. Or they go thru the fender well and there is no way that is a easy job.
I don't think it is a big deal. But the simple reality is it takes as long to get to the filter as the others do to get the entire change completed. Nothing is perfect, but this is just the truth. It is a PITA relative to the other trucks.
Well said... And to add wait until the engine gets dirt/grime all over and the urge to remove any filtration plumbing that exposes the turbo/filtration plumbing is asking for potential issues.
โJun-30-2015 06:52 PM
rhagfo wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:Bionic Man wrote:
This is turning into another example of how forums like this are by far the exception to what happens in mainstream America.
I would be willing to venture a guess that less than 10% of people change their own oil in their cars. And it is probably MUCH less than that. I am not sure I personally know anyone who changes their own oil. And unless I go on a Fish story, where a friend of an aquainatance of a neighbors dogsitters cousin, I have never heard of a true problem caused by an incompetent tech. I know they are out there, but they are far from rampant.
I have 4 vehicles plus a couple of boats in my "personal fleet" of vehicles. I change the oil in my fishing boat, but nothing else. The worst thing that has happend in having someone else change the oil is Grease Monkey didn't correctly reattach the air dam on my wife's 300 one time. Quick trip back to them, and it was fixed.
That is 25 plus years of driving, who knows how many cars.
More power to those that have the time and inclination to do their own oil changes. But having someone do the service for you is far from the riskiest thing you will do in the day.
My Daughter worked art Walmart changing tires and oil. She is a smart gal but the stories she told me about the Monkeys she worked with were amazing. I personally know someone that had their oil pan replaced by Walmart because they stripped the plug.
I like to know my vehicles inside and out. Get underneath it and look it over once in a while like when changing oil.
I agree 100%!
As a kid I worked on my own vehicles to save money, now I work on them as therapy! ๐
โJun-30-2015 06:49 PM
mich800 wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:up2nogood wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:FishOnOne wrote:
Excuse me while I let you fan boys pass the Kool-Aid around! :W
Well Fish I am happy for you that you have a truck that the oil filter is easier to change and has nice mirrors.
But for me the extra 10 minutes it may take to change my oil is a minor inconvenience and I think I proved with my post it's really not a big deal to change the oil on a 13-15 RAM.
I think you are being kind here with the ten minute extra. I have to disagree, I've changed the oil three times now on my 2014 Ram, and although I'm getting better at it, and yes I have done it the way you showed, thats nothing new when changing the oil on these new Rams. At best its still a pita .
So you removed the steel pipe at the top? It is easily a 10 minute job the way I did it.
"Nothing new" ?
Please show me where anyone has posted the way I did it. Everyone removes the hose down low and fight getting it re connected. Or they go thru the fender well and there is no way that is a easy job.
I don't think it is a big deal. But the simple reality is it takes as long to get to the filter as the others do to get the entire change completed. Nothing is perfect, but this is just the truth. It is a PITA relative to the other trucks.
โJun-30-2015 06:08 PM
โJun-30-2015 04:31 PM
Cummins12V98 wrote:up2nogood wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:FishOnOne wrote:
Excuse me while I let you fan boys pass the Kool-Aid around! :W
Well Fish I am happy for you that you have a truck that the oil filter is easier to change and has nice mirrors.
But for me the extra 10 minutes it may take to change my oil is a minor inconvenience and I think I proved with my post it's really not a big deal to change the oil on a 13-15 RAM.
I think you are being kind here with the ten minute extra. I have to disagree, I've changed the oil three times now on my 2014 Ram, and although I'm getting better at it, and yes I have done it the way you showed, thats nothing new when changing the oil on these new Rams. At best its still a pita .
So you removed the steel pipe at the top? It is easily a 10 minute job the way I did it.
"Nothing new" ?
Please show me where anyone has posted the way I did it. Everyone removes the hose down low and fight getting it re connected. Or they go thru the fender well and there is no way that is a easy job.
โJun-30-2015 04:10 PM
up2nogood wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:FishOnOne wrote:
Excuse me while I let you fan boys pass the Kool-Aid around! :W
Well Fish I am happy for you that you have a truck that the oil filter is easier to change and has nice mirrors.
But for me the extra 10 minutes it may take to change my oil is a minor inconvenience and I think I proved with my post it's really not a big deal to change the oil on a 13-15 RAM.
I think you are being kind here with the ten minute extra. I have to disagree, I've changed the oil three times now on my 2014 Ram, and although I'm getting better at it, and yes I have done it the way you showed, thats nothing new when changing the oil on these new Rams. At best its still a pita .
โJun-30-2015 03:58 PM
goducks10 wrote:
I had a 1994 Ford Ranger and when I didn't do the oil change Oil Can Henrys did. !98,000 latter and no issues. I never once changed the oil on our 03 Accord. 130,000 and no issues. I have been doing oil changes on my 12 Ram CTD up until the last few. If something happens to it that's what the warranty's for. As bad as everyone makes all dealers sound, some are decent. My 12 is known for oil dilution because of regens. So you end up with more fluid in the oil pan after x amount of miles. It calls for 12qts of oil. The common sense thing to do is put 11qts in so after 3-4-5000 miles you don't have an overfull oil pan because of dilution. The dealer I take mine to only puts 11qts in. Works for me.
โJun-30-2015 03:50 PM
Cummins12V98 wrote:FishOnOne wrote:
Excuse me while I let you fan boys pass the Kool-Aid around! :W
Well Fish I am happy for you that you have a truck that the oil filter is easier to change and has nice mirrors.
But for me the extra 10 minutes it may take to change my oil is a minor inconvenience and I think I proved with my post it's really not a big deal to change the oil on a 13-15 RAM.
โJun-30-2015 07:59 AM
โJun-30-2015 07:45 AM
โJun-30-2015 07:29 AM
โJun-29-2015 03:45 PM
Cummins12V98 wrote:Bionic Man wrote:
This is turning into another example of how forums like this are by far the exception to what happens in mainstream America.
I would be willing to venture a guess that less than 10% of people change their own oil in their cars. And it is probably MUCH less than that. I am not sure I personally know anyone who changes their own oil. And unless I go on a Fish story, where a friend of an aquainatance of a neighbors dogsitters cousin, I have never heard of a true problem caused by an incompetent tech. I know they are out there, but they are far from rampant.
I have 4 vehicles plus a couple of boats in my "personal fleet" of vehicles. I change the oil in my fishing boat, but nothing else. The worst thing that has happend in having someone else change the oil is Grease Monkey didn't correctly reattach the air dam on my wife's 300 one time. Quick trip back to them, and it was fixed.
That is 25 plus years of driving, who knows how many cars.
More power to those that have the time and inclination to do their own oil changes. But having someone do the service for you is far from the riskiest thing you will do in the day.
My Daughter worked art Walmart changing tires and oil. She is a smart gal but the stories she told me about the Monkeys she worked with were amazing. I personally know someone that had their oil pan replaced by Walmart because they stripped the plug.
I like to know my vehicles inside and out. Get underneath it and look it over once in a while like when changing oil.
โJun-29-2015 03:35 PM
Bionic Man wrote:
This is turning into another example of how forums like this are by far the exception to what happens in mainstream America.
I would be willing to venture a guess that less than 10% of people change their own oil in their cars. And it is probably MUCH less than that. I am not sure I personally know anyone who changes their own oil. And unless I go on a Fish story, where a friend of an aquainatance of a neighbors dogsitters cousin, I have never heard of a true problem caused by an incompetent tech. I know they are out there, but they are far from rampant.
I have 4 vehicles plus a couple of boats in my "personal fleet" of vehicles. I change the oil in my fishing boat, but nothing else. The worst thing that has happend in having someone else change the oil is Grease Monkey didn't correctly reattach the air dam on my wife's 300 one time. Quick trip back to them, and it was fixed.
That is 25 plus years of driving, who knows how many cars.
More power to those that have the time and inclination to do their own oil changes. But having someone do the service for you is far from the riskiest thing you will do in the day.
โJun-29-2015 03:29 PM
The Mad Norsky wrote:
Fish said "BTW... I do respect the fact you prefer to do this yourself. I couldn't imagine having some kid perform this task at the lube shop. Way too many opportunities for a mistake to be made with unintended consequences."
Well, after reading Cummins 12V's original post here, went out to my truck to look for that 10mm bolt on the turbo hoses, just to familiarize myself.
Looking around the motor compartment, suddenly I spotted something out of the corner of my eye;
THIS:
ITS NOT MINE!
Facing rearward from the front of the truck, it was laying stuck between the fan shroud and the air filter box. God only knows how long it has been in there. Wedged in good, so at least it was not getting into the fan or belt systems.
But I don't think it was the correct size (21mm metric) to be of any use in the one vehicle service my local dealer has done, an oil change, so it could have been in there from the factory even.
But its is idiot stuff like this that makes me want to do my own service work, and stay away from the clowns that do the work at many places.
Gosh this made me angry to find this. And thankful, as I said, that it was wedged in so good that it didn't rattle into the fan or belts and cause serious damage while I was driving around.
I've looked under that hood dozens of times, and this was the very first time I had even seen this.
As I said, it was not mine, but it is now.