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Sad end and new beginnings!

HJGyswyt
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I've been around RV's all my 52 years of life, and over the years many RV's have passed through my hands. All that I have sold were always in better shape than when I purchased used, having only once bought a new trailer. This unit was my fourth used camper, and I had hoped it would serve me for some years to come. But sadly it was too far gone when I got it, and just recently I scrapped it.

I used the camper for a couple years, but when the ceiling began falling in (really) and the bed was hanging down in the middle I thought I would rebuild it like I've done with two previous campers. Well, vacuum bonded construction is really good, super strong, and light weight until it begins leaking. The entire curbside of the camper was d-laminating, and the stink was pretty bad. But once I opened this camper up, there was no end to the rot. yes the aluminum walls are strong, but the minimal amount of wood in the walls was all mush. I realized soon that it was beyond repair, better to just scrap it.

So sadly the last few days I have been taking everything salvageable out of it and will soon take it for one last ride on my utility trailer to the land fill. Breaks my heart, I enjoyed it very much for such a short time.


I've found when the camper was brand new the dealer installed an awning and never used putty under the awning channel, just ran the screws into the side wall, and two big bolts through the wall with fender washers on the inside. The wall has water intrusion since it was new. Sad


After tearing the whole cab over off I chased the rot in the roof back to past the air conditioner. It actually goes further back along the very edge where walls meet the roof.


All the wood and Styrofoam was soaked with water.


Not even a miracle could save it now.


The average mechanic cannot repair these types of RV's. You just can't replace sections like you can on stick and tin RV's.


What a mess. I had planned to rebuild the cab-over section using some high tech composite material I have on hand. But I realized even if I rebuilt the cab-over portion there was still so much more wrong with the sidewalls coming apart and the entire roof having to be rebuilt.


And here I go again, starting over with another "older" camper and even a newer truck. I gave my 96 Silverado to my son and put my Suburban in the barn with all my collector vehicles. My new truck is a 2003 2500HD Duramax/Allison with only 57,000 miles, one owner and all service records included.


It was a 350 mile trip over two passes with lots of snow an ice to get this camper out of the desert and back home.


I bought this old 1987 Western Wilderness Alpine 11 foot camper for $1200, and had no way to check if anything worked until I got home. Everything works! 3 way fridge, furnace, hot water tank, pump, stove and oven. Not one light bulb was even burned out.


Big north south bed.


There is even room for my new dog (7 year old Corgi from the rescue) to sleep next to the bed.


Spacious kitchen area.


Curbside fridge (110V/12V/Propane) counter top and a wet bath in the back. The bathroom has a furnace duct into it so it gets nice and toasty when it's on (my old one didn't - Brrrr!)


Dinette with drop down bunk.

And so I start over with sealing and cleaning. It's not pristine, pictures make it look good. There are de-lam issues with the fiberglass siding, the fire escape over the bed leaks when it rains, but I hope to have this camper ready for use very soon. I'll post more pictures when I make my first trip out with it. Hans
2003 GMC 2500HD CC Longbox SW/2002 Wilcat Bunkhouse 30'
/1987 Western Wildderness 11' Alpine Truck Camper/1971 MacGregor Venture Sailboat

Rig Pictures, click on this link.

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dadwolf2
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Too late for one but a happy future for the next one. Great work.
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jefe_4x4
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Hans,
I really like the fact that you posted a lot of detailed pictures to show the woe. Most of us are 'superficial' about our TC's and don't have a clue how all that stuff is glued and screwed together. Thanks again for the tour of the hulk. Very instructive.
The good news is you knew when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em.
Merry Christmas to you and yours.
regards, as always, jefe
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realter
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You are so fortunate to be handy and able to do that sort of thing. Looks like a fun winter project, and you live in such a pretty area of the country, don;t have to drive far to use the camper.

spacedoutbob
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Hans, Congratulations on the (New to you) camper. I'm glad to see you picked up another one quickly.

Bob in Calif.
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HJGyswyt
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OK, go back to the start of this thread and see my new acquisition. I just bought an older camper to replace the one I just tore apart. I pasted the pictures in at the start. Hans
2003 GMC 2500HD CC Longbox SW/2002 Wilcat Bunkhouse 30'
/1987 Western Wildderness 11' Alpine Truck Camper/1971 MacGregor Venture Sailboat

Rig Pictures, click on this link.

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SpknTC
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HJGyswyt wrote:
Rebuild of Rockrash's Vacationeer.

Wow, I'm impressed with what you have done so far. Mine is on the way to the dump and I'm looking for a another camper in the couple thousand dollar range. Be sure and come back and post a finished picture. All the best, Hans


Good luck with your search. There are a lot of older gems out there for a good price.
I know because I have one. :B
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trail-explorer
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sounds like it's time to decommission it.... or as they say on Alaska State Trooper TV show (with regard to wildlife that need to be put out of their misery), "dispatch" it.
Bob

HJGyswyt
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Rebuild of Rockrash's Vacationeer.

Wow, I'm impressed with what you have done so far. Mine is on the way to the dump and I'm looking for a another camper in the couple thousand dollar range. Be sure and come back and post a finished picture. All the best, Hans
2003 GMC 2500HD CC Longbox SW/2002 Wilcat Bunkhouse 30'
/1987 Western Wildderness 11' Alpine Truck Camper/1971 MacGregor Venture Sailboat

Rig Pictures, click on this link.

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Rockrash
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http://www.nc4x4.com/forum/index.php?threads/free-willie-a-camper-build.142083/

Here is a link to my build. Yes, everywhere is rotten. The camper was given to me and I'm a carpenter so I have the ability, time is my enemy.

spacedoutbob
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Hans, I really feel bad for you and your camper. I remember your thread when you found the camper and cleaned it up along with your shakedown cruise. I hope that you find another camper at a good deal that doesn't have problems like your Vacationeer camper did. Good luck.

Bob in Calif.
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HJGyswyt
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Rockrash wrote:
I have just taken my time and made it better than new.


Too late for mine now, but did yours have rot down into the walls as well as the entire roof? Was yours a wood framed camper or a vacuum bonded aluminum framed wall like mine? I'm curious how you managed to separate the layers on the exterior walls. I hope yours wasn't as bad as mine. Any pictures of your rebuild? I just don't have hundreds of hours, I'd rather be camping, plus I do have a very nice trailer as well, so I'm still getting out there. Hans
2003 GMC 2500HD CC Longbox SW/2002 Wilcat Bunkhouse 30'
/1987 Western Wildderness 11' Alpine Truck Camper/1971 MacGregor Venture Sailboat

Rig Pictures, click on this link.

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Rockrash
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I have the exact camper and am currently in the middle of a total rebuild. You are correct about a little rot turning into much Mich more. I will say that it is low cost to repair though, but very time consuming. I have just taken my time and made it better than new.

69_Avion
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Sometimes they are too far gone to rebuild. The amount of work, and money, that is takes to rebuild an old camper or trailer makes a person want to start with a good quality constructed unit so that you don't end up in a situation where all your hard work is wasted.
Good luck on the next camper. I hope you get a good one.
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Scott16
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It is a Sad end to your 1990 Vacationeer Camper. Thanks for the report and pictures. Can really see all the damage, too bad. I really like the old style campers. Best of luck with your next TC project.
Scott
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