Small Four Season TT

[Larry7995]

I have been looking at TTs now since last fall. Just need one for 2 people. My neighbor asked me if I was getting a 4 season trailer which opened a new search. Since I live in Colorado and mtn temps can drop into the 20s even in the summer, that seemed a no-brainer. So I was wandering around an RV lot and discovered the ORV trailers, very nice but sort of heavy. Friend from Montana suggested I look at Nash and Arctic Fox, they are very nice as well. Price keeps going up the more I look. So the Northwood Nash 22 is nice and only 4300 lb dry weight, the ORV - Creek Side 21RBS is decent but 5300 lbs dry weight. I have a new F-150 3.5L Ecoboost with Max Tow and it is a great truck but still want to be mindful of weight. Also, was wondering how much pulling the trailers into rutted dirt forest camp sites becomes a consideration as they become heavier. Also looking at the ORV 21FQS at 6000 lbs. And the Arctic Fox 22
http://outdoorsrvmfg.com/creek-side/creek-side-21rbs/
http://northwoodmfg.com/compare/1/49/nash-22h/
http://outdoorsrvmfg.com/timber-ridge-21fqs/
http://northwoodmfg.com/arctic-fox-2/arctic-fox-22g/

[TurnThePage]

I think any of those shorter Nash or Outdoors trailers would pull well behind any capable half ton. For reference, my trailer, which is similar in size and weight to some of those, pulls very well behind my current and previous half ton. And I'm specifically talking about mountainous, rocky, snowy, muddy terrain.

I personally would lean toward the Outdoors brand because of the variety and options in the shorter models. The only thing they're missing is the built in gen.

[goducks10]

Larry7995 wrote:

BizmarksMom wrote:
I tow my Nash 22h up all over the Sawtooths in Idaho with an F150. I have not had problems pulling that trailer down any dirt road I've wanted to. The combination works really well for me.

Good to know! I am going to Lazydays and walk thru a 22H and 23D this Saturday.

Don't expect very much bling. Beauty is really skin deep in Northwood trailers.

[Larry7995]

BizmarksMom wrote:
I tow my Nash 22h up all over the Sawtooths in Idaho with an F150. I have not had problems pulling that trailer down any dirt road I've wanted to. The combination works really well for me.

Good to know! I am going to Lazydays and walk thru a 22H and 23D this Saturday.

[profdant139]

Someone mentioned that all of the four season trailers are insulated with thermofoil (reflectix) -- I think that ORV uses thick styrofoam in the walls and ceilings. My little Fun Finder is surprisingly well insulated with sytrofoam -- we have been comfortable in temps down to ten degrees at night. But the underbelly is not enclosed, which would be necessary for true four-season camping.

And yes, ventilation is crucial. So if it is really, really cold (like zero), you will have to have a source of heat.

[BizmarksMom]

I tow my Nash 22h up all over the Sawtooths in Idaho with an F150. I have not had problems pulling that trailer down any dirt road I've wanted to. The combination works really well for me.

[Larry7995]

Looking at pricing on RV Trader, seems I could save $5-$10K by driving out to the coast as opposed to buying locally in Colorado. Being totally new to this process, it might be helpful to have a local dealer to answer all my questions but then again they have Owners Manuals.

[myredracer]

Lance or one of the Northwoods products. Way better insulated all round.

The problem with all TTs is that removal of moisture laden air is not addressed. At a min., you need to crack open windows & roof vents. If camping for extended periods, you need a dehumidifier (electric). A tremendous amount of moisture is released into the air from human bodies, pets, cooking & showering and if not removed will lead to rot, delamination & mold. A better insulated TT helps a lot, but never seal up all the cracks and openings to conserve heat. "Regular" TTs are just not very well insulated.

If it were me, I'd check out TTs with a Murphy bed. More space during the day and a place to lounge and watch TV. Our 1st TT was 20' and we sold it after a year because it was just too cramped. It was not enjoyable to spend time inside other than sleeping.

There was a guy that toughed out a winter in an R-pod in the Yukon. Trailer Life story here. Not exactly the best choice for brutally cold -40C temps. He lived to tell the tale though... 🙂

[Larry7995]

The 21RD is lighter at about 5000 than the other Outdoors RV floorplans as it doesn't have a slide. I am bouncing around like a ping pong ball with all the cool trailers to choose from 🙂

[afidel]

lawrosa wrote:
I would wait and see the weight of the 21 kvs... Thats a cool floorplan..

2019 Outdoors RV Mountain Creek Side 21KVS

To each their own but if you're going to have rear panoramic windows why not make it so you can actually sit and enjoy them, give me the 21RD with either the dinette or the recliner option. You also get a full queen with the 21RD, only an RV queen with the 21KVS which is a deal killer for me.

[ppine]

Nash. Arctic Fox, Outdoors RV.

[lawrosa]

I would wait and see the weight of the 21 kvs... Thats a cool floorplan..

2019 Outdoors RV Mountain Creek Side 21KVS

[Fireballsocal]

Lance, escape, and bigfoot make great 4 season lightweight trailers. I think the brands you listed are really well respected standard weight trailers and have a good following here on the forum. Your truck shouldn't have an issue with any of them but checking out the 3 I listed can't hurt.

[lawrosa]

ORV makes their own off road frames and have shock suspension.

Nash was the Father and ORV is a knock off from family members.

There is really no such thing as a 4 season lightweight rv... Its just thermofoil **** that IMO do little for r value..

with 2: walls and 5: roof you can only get so much insulation r value.