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Bumpyroad
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Unless I can solve my missing brake controller plug issue, is there such a thing as a surge activated device in the receiver that can activate the electric trailer brakes?
thanks,
Bumpy
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Bumpyroad
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Blackdiamond wrote:
Bumpyroad wrote:
Unless I can solve my missing brake controller plug issue, is there such a thing as a surge activated device in the receiver that can activate the electric trailer brakes?
thanks,
Bumpy
The plugs only come on MHs with rubber roofs.


I will buy another tV then. ๐Ÿ˜‰
bumpy

Blackdiamond
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Bumpyroad wrote:
Unless I can solve my missing brake controller plug issue, is there such a thing as a surge activated device in the receiver that can activate the electric trailer brakes?
thanks,
Bumpy
The plugs only come on MHs with rubber roofs.
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Bumpyroad
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well the lost is found, finally. based on pix posted on the tacoma world forum the fitting was hidden behind some mesh and behind a large white junction box? thanks for all the suggestions/etc.
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/brake-controller-installation.408651/#post-11495576
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Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
The boat never moved forward at all, it did move backwards about 3 inches. That kind of surprises me as I have 3 inch strips holding the back of the boat to the trailer!

Bumpy I was thinking (I know scary right lol) was this truck a model year change? If so it could be in the old location. Just a thought.

Don


yes, good thought, as it is the 3rd generation of the tacoma. I'm thinking that some/most/all of the pictures, etc., were for the 16 however.
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Perrysburg_Dodg
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The boat never moved forward at all, it did move backwards about 3 inches. That kind of surprises me as I have 3 inch strips holding the back of the boat to the trailer!

Bumpy I was thinking (I know scary right lol) was this truck a model year change? If so it could be in the old location. Just a thought.

Don
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SoCalDesertRid1
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Don, good thing the nose of the boat didn't end up in the tailgate! What a repair bill that would be. Glad you got the truck fixed and nobody was hurt!
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Bumpyroad
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rjstractor wrote:
Bumpy, if you can't find the controller harness plug, why not just have the controller wired from scratch and be done with it? It may not be factory but it's a pretty easy, straightforward job.



It is a matter of principle now. ๐Ÿ™‚ the dog gone thing has a plug and I intend to find it. one more time with my mechanic and the pix off tacoma world, if that fails I probably will fall back on mowermech's link.
bumpy

rjstractor
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Bumpy, if you can't find the controller harness plug, why not just have the controller wired from scratch and be done with it? It may not be factory but it's a pretty easy, straightforward job.
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Bumpyroad
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Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
Not sure if you ordered anything but look at Hydrastar I just ordered the 1000psi unit for my boat along with a breakaway system. Link

Don


thanks but several hundred dollars more.
yes, originally I was wondering if there was such a thing as a surge operated jobby I could put in the receiver,etc., that would make electric brakes work, but as I said mowermech found a much better solution.
am giving it one more time to try to locate the plug under dash and the tacoma world link gives me some hope (although three mechanics have been under there looking) and if not, return mine and probably get the RF.

bumpy

Perrysburg_Dodg
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From what I have been reading most of the new boat trailers are either all electric or electric over hydraulic. I was going to convert over to 100% electric but the cost was going to end up being $1,800 by time it was all said and done. With me doing all of the work

I had the boat come off the hitch do to a trailer coupling failure! The back coupler boss was worn out and allowed the boat to come off the hitch. The safety chains kept the boat from going anywhere other then into the rear bumper of my truck three times. :M

So after 45 minutes I was able to get it back on the truck and towed it 1/4 mile to the plant and dropped it there. Cost me a bumper but at least no one was hurt and the boat stayed with the truck! Up side there was no body damage to the truck just the bumper! Also the breakaway cable was pulled but the brakes never activated causing the boat to slam into the rear of the truck. Another reason I'm going with this system! Electric breakaway system.


Don
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SoCalDesertRid1
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It sounds really good, Don. Being able to activate your hydraulic brakes as if they were electric, from inside the truck, despite being surge activated, will be a benefit if a bad situation comes up on the road.
01 International 4800 4x4 CrewCab DT466E Allison MD3060
69Bronco 86Samurai 85ATC250R 89CR500
98Ranger 96Tacoma
20' BigTex flatbed
8' truck camper, 14' Aristocrat TT
73 Kona 17' ski boat & Mercury 1150TB
92F350 CrewCab 4x4 351/C6 285 BFG AT 4.56 & LockRite rear

Perrysburg_Dodg
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SoCalDesertRider wrote:
That Hydrastar system should be great for your boat trailer, since it has hydraulic brakes already. Will be an expensive conversion for Bumpy's travel trailer, since he likely doesn't have hydraulic brakes on his trailer.


Guess I misread what he was asking about "Unless I can solve my missing brake controller plug issue, is there such a thing as a surge activated device in the receiver that can activate the electric trailer brakes?" I thought he had a trailer with surge brakes and was looking to go to electric. LOL my bad, two many 12 hour days ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

It's going to cost me about $900 total with the new trailer coupler and everything needed for the Elc. over Hyd. conversion. But from all the reviews it is the best way to go.

Don
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SoCalDesertRid1
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That Hydrastar system should be great for your boat trailer, since it has hydraulic brakes already. Will be an expensive conversion for Bumpy's travel trailer, since he likely doesn't have hydraulic brakes on his trailer.
01 International 4800 4x4 CrewCab DT466E Allison MD3060
69Bronco 86Samurai 85ATC250R 89CR500
98Ranger 96Tacoma
20' BigTex flatbed
8' truck camper, 14' Aristocrat TT
73 Kona 17' ski boat & Mercury 1150TB
92F350 CrewCab 4x4 351/C6 285 BFG AT 4.56 & LockRite rear

Perrysburg_Dodg
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Not sure if you ordered anything but look at Hydrastar I just ordered the 1000psi unit for my boat along with a breakaway system. Link

Don
2015 Ram 1500 Laramie Crew Cab SWB 4X4 Ecodiesel GDE Tune.