โJan-09-2021 07:07 PM
โApr-10-2021 04:12 PM
Huntindog wrote:
If 36# is that important to you.... You need a bigger truck.
โApr-10-2021 12:38 PM
ognend wrote:If 36# is that important to you.... You need a bigger truck.Huntindog wrote:
Read my ENTIRE post again. I am not going to contact Ford without your trucks pertintnent info, and challange them on your behalf. It is YOUR truck, and you have the necessary info, and YOU are the one that wants to use your own numbers... If you want an explanation.... Then Ford is your source for it...... If you just want to use the number you came up with.... It is a free country. Just do it, no need to ask about it here.
Ah I see what you are saying.
In an ideal world we would have access to Ford engineers to ask them these questions. In the real world, I have a coolant leak for the last 10,000 miles that the Ford dealer cannot find after two visits but is happy to top off the coolant every oil change. I also cannot get Ford to fix my FordPass account so that all my repair/maintenance history is fully unlocked for me to see as an owner. In the real world, I have a sticker with a "magic number" of 2184 lbs (which is SUPER precise for payload, not 2180, not 2190 but 2184!), I also have a RAWR and FAWR even though I am not supposed to be looking at those (why give them to me?).
You see, in the real world, you are only interesting to Ford when you ask "how much". Thanks for your insights.
โApr-10-2021 10:45 AM
philh wrote:
don't like the number on the door sticker, you just get to pick a new number? Interesting way of dealing with payload capacity.
โApr-10-2021 09:45 AM
MikeRP wrote:
So what if your only worry about a new truck was payload. You go to the Ford Dealer and see a 2019 Ford 3500 CC SB Lariat SRW. Payload 3400 lbs. Sitting next to it was a 2019 Ford 3500 CC Long Bed XLT SRW. Payload 3400 lbs. Across the way is a Ram dealer. Heโs got a 2020 Ram 3500 CC Long Bed Longhorn. Payload 4150 lbs. Which one do you buy and why? All three are diesels.
โApr-10-2021 08:56 AM
Michelle.S wrote:
The Ford number is probably based on the weakest link which may be the tires used, have you checked the ratings on your tires to see if they will support your new cargo capacity?
โApr-10-2021 07:57 AM
What do y'all think? Thanks!
โApr-10-2021 07:55 AM
Michelle.S wrote:
The Ford number is probably based on the weakest link which may be the tires used, have you checked the ratings on your tires to see if they will support your new cargo capacity?
โApr-10-2021 06:39 AM
โApr-10-2021 04:11 AM
ognend wrote:
Quick update on this thread: I finally got around to taking my truck to the scales with a full tank of diesel ('16 F-250 Crew Cab FX4 Powerstroke). Front axle: 4860, rear axle: 3280, total weight, 8140 lbs.
My RAWR is 6100lbs so I am going with payload capacity of 2820lbs, even though Ford's sticker in the door says - 2184lbs.
My total trailer loaded weight: 9270. Since it is a horse trailer with living quarters, I am going with 30% of the weight being on the hitch - which would be 2780lbs. Hence, I feel like I am not overweight. n fact, I am comfortable with replacing the stock 26gal fuel tank with a 50 gal Titan - which would add 192lbs to the equation.
What do y'all think? Thanks!
โApr-10-2021 03:40 AM
4x4ord wrote:
Ford gives you the max cargo weight on your door sticker. They also give the maximum axle weight ratings on the door sticker. If you want to follow a maximum rating Iโd recommend you ignore the maximum cargo capacity number and go by your maximum rear axle weight rating. I believe it is much safer to be heavy on the pin than light. You could be 1000 lbs over on your maximum rear axle rating and the only way youโd ever know it is over weight is by weighing your axle. If youโre too light, the trailer can be very unstable and dangerous.
โApr-10-2021 03:09 AM
โApr-10-2021 02:08 AM
Huntindog wrote:
Read my ENTIRE post again. I am not going to contact Ford without your trucks pertintnent info, and challange them on your behalf. It is YOUR truck, and you have the necessary info, and YOU are the one that wants to use your own numbers... If you want an explanation.... Then Ford is your source for it...... If you just want to use the number you came up with.... It is a free country. Just do it, no need to ask about it here.
โApr-10-2021 12:17 AM
ognend wrote:Read my ENTIRE post again. I am not going to contact Ford without your trucks pertintnent info, and challange them on your behalf. It is YOUR truck, and you have the necessary info, and YOU are the one that wants to use your own numbers... If you want an explanation.... Then Ford is your source for it...... If you just want to use the number you came up with.... It is a free country. Just do it, no need to ask about it here.Huntindog wrote:ognend wrote:I "think" that you do not like Fords number, so you are using one that you came up with.philh wrote:
don't like the number on the door sticker, you just get to pick a new number? Interesting way of dealing with payload capacity.
I picked a different number on the sticker - RAWR minus actual weight of rear axle. I feel that number is the right one. What do you think?
Why don't you write a letter to Ford Motor Company with all of the pertintnent info (VIN#) and tell them what you posted here?
Tell them why your calculations are better than the ones their engineers came up with.
Then post their response.
Of course I don't like the number. However, I would also like to understand how they reached the exact 2184lbs payload capacity number (it is not exactly explained in the owner manual) and why they bothered to publish the 6100 RAWR number on the door sticker if the RAWR number has zero relevance. Do you have the explanation for that one? I am not saying this to argue but at the end of the day, if the payload capacity is the single number to look at, why publish the FAWR and RAWR numbers? Thanks!
โApr-09-2021 07:00 PM
MikeRP wrote:
So what if your only worry about a new truck was payload. You go to the Ford Dealer and see a 2019 Ford 3500 CC SB Lariat SRW. Payload 3400 lbs. Sitting next to it was a 2019 Ford 3500 CC Long Bed XLT SRW. Payload 3400 lbs. Across the way is a Ram dealer. Heโs got a 2020 Ram 3500 CC Long Bed Longhorn. Payload 4150 lbs. Which one do you buy and why? All three are diesels.
โApr-09-2021 06:29 PM