what truck should I buy?

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Buying a new cedar creek 38rd fifth wheel
hitch weight-2190
axle dry weight 11250lbs
unloaded vehicle weight13440 lbs
gvwr16190 lbs
dual axles #7000
cargo capacity 2750 lbs
please help want to buy the new truck this week, I do like fords. I am thinking a super duty 350 sw dissel thanks

[Cummins12V98]

Fish we have had this conversation before. The RAM is ASSEMBLED in Mexico. Engine, trans, transfercase front/rear diffs and the vast majority is US Made.

Yes I wish it was US ASSEMBLED but the good far outweighs the little bit of bad.

Oh and do you go to the truck stops and quiz the hotshots on transmission choice with the RAM?

At least you are not denying RAM is the leader in the independent owners category.

[FishOnOne]

kaydeejay wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
Full Dislosure is the Ford truck is built in the USA by a USA company, but has a engine made in Mexico and the RAM truck is made in Mexico by a foreign company. This should be the clincher.

The F450 is J2807 certified which is basically a beefed up F350 and we've seen the performance of the '15 Fords F350 and F450 vs the RAM's in towing comparisons. Or perhaps this should clinch the deal.

Sorry but I want to say the devil made me say this...:B

BTW... I've yet to see a RAM hotshotter with a automatic transmission and not have the emissions deleted. Must be a reason :W

Not quite full disclosure.............
The 3500 Chevy/GMC twins are built in the USA (Flint, Michigan) with diesel engine built in the USA (Moraine, Ohio).

I believe the Alison trans is also US built but I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong!

Now, about that clincher.:W

I like it...:)

[kaydeejay]

FishOnOne wrote:
Full Dislosure is the Ford truck is built in the USA by a USA company, but has a engine made in Mexico and the RAM truck is made in Mexico by a foreign company. This should be the clincher.

The F450 is J2807 certified which is basically a beefed up F350 and we've seen the performance of the '15 Fords F350 and F450 vs the RAM's in towing comparisons. Or perhaps this should clinch the deal.

Sorry but I want to say the devil made me say this...:B

BTW... I've yet to see a RAM hotshotter with a automatic transmission and not have the emissions deleted. Must be a reason :W

Not quite full disclosure.............
The 3500 Chevy/GMC twins are built in the USA (Flint, Michigan) with diesel engine built in the USA (Moraine, Ohio).

I believe the Alison trans is also US built but I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong!

Now, about that clincher.:W

[FishOnOne]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

ScottG wrote:

rhagfo wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
An F350 6.7 diesel would be a jewel.

Fish, OP is looking for a TV not an engagement ring! :B

That fiver is best towed with a real strong Tractor Engine Cummins/Asian 3500 DRW, will be a great fit.

Sorry Fish, the devil made me do it!!

There's nothing wrong with telling the truth. 😉

Agree!

The RAM has a true MediumDuty Cummins engine and a true MediumDuty Aisin transmission. Their towing claims are backed up by SAE J2807 standards. The others are just claims with nothing to back it up. CP3 injection pump VS questionable CP4 with the other two.

Majority of "independent" RV haulers/hotshotters choose RAM more than the others. Fish I said "independent" !

Open the hood on all three, that should clinch the deal for you.

Full Dislosure is the Ford truck is built in the USA by a USA company, but has a engine made in Mexico and the RAM truck is made in Mexico by a foreign company. This should be the clincher.

The F450 is J2807 certified which is basically a beefed up F350 and we've seen the performance of the '15 Fords F350 and F450 vs the RAM's in towing comparisons. Or perhaps this should clinch the deal.

Sorry but I want to say the devil made me say this...:B

BTW... I've yet to see a RAM hotshotter with a automatic transmission and not have the emissions deleted. Must be a reason :W

[FishOnOne]

rhagfo wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
An F350 6.7 diesel would be a jewel.

Fish, OP is looking for a TV not an engagement ring! :B

That fiver is best towed with a real strong Tractor Engine Cummins/Asian 3500 DRW, will be a great fit.

Sorry Fish, the devil made me do it!!

I understand... :B

[Powerdude]

Gonna have to agree with the dually crowd this time around.

That's dually territory, 3500/350 class, or even higher 450/4500.

Since you're going BIG on the 5th wheel, you have to go big on the truck.

[Cummins12V98]

ScottG wrote:

rhagfo wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
An F350 6.7 diesel would be a jewel.

Fish, OP is looking for a TV not an engagement ring! :B

That fiver is best towed with a real strong Tractor Engine Cummins/Asian 3500 DRW, will be a great fit.

Sorry Fish, the devil made me do it!!

There's nothing wrong with telling the truth. 😉

Agree!

The RAM has a true MediumDuty Cummins engine and a true MediumDuty Aisin transmission. Their towing claims are backed up by SAE J2807 standards. The others are just claims with nothing to back it up. CP3 injection pump VS questionable CP4 with the other two.

Majority of "independent" RV haulers/hotshotters choose RAM more than the others. Fish I said "independent" !

Open the hood on all three, that should clinch the deal for you.

[fla-gypsy]

Any DRW 350 should meet your needs

[Bedlam]

Although you may find some SRW's that can handle your FW, you will be at the limits of the tow vehicle - I also suggest a DRW diesel for your intended use. If you have restrictions in your neighborhood concerning truck size and you tow only a few times a year on relative flat land, I'm sure we could help you configure a gasoline SRW that can do the job as long as you understand the limitations.

[jerem0621]

Fivers can have a pin weight as much as 25%... You are looking at close to if not more than 4000 lbs if you ever get fully loaded (it happens)...Here is a chart that can give you a worse case scenario...how much you can pull with your available payload... Subtract everything from the payload of the truck that will be in the truck.. yourself, family, gear.. etc etc etc... then use available payload to see if you can pull the fiver.



You still have to pay attention to GCVWR and the Trailer Tow Rating..

Thanks and good luck!

Jeremiah

[Chuck___]

Please take your time or you will loose thousands and end up purchasing the wrong tow vehicle.

1. Most important. Learn what the "true" towing capacity of any vehicle your looking to buy. Pin weight and so on.

2. I Highly recommend purchasing a vehicle from an auto broker or Triple AAA. You can get the same warranty as any dealer will offer and save thousands of dollars. Ask your credit union if they have a auto broker they work with. AAA will give you a price in minutes to compare against any dealer. For example: A few years ago my neighbor purchased a Chev Derimax Diesel 2500 top of the line for $46,000. If he would of gone to the local auto broker he could of got the exact same truck for $36,000 to $38,000. He was in a hurry and or just didn't want to listen to me.

3. Check and see if Dick Smith's Motors in Kellogg, Idaho is still saling trucks and cars. He once was the number one Dealer in the nation because they would sale approximately 120,000 vehicles per year at the lowest cost of any dealer in the nation. Basically gives you a price on line and you will know in a few minute what you will be saving.

Sorry, I don't have the time to give you more details for now. maybe latter.

PS: Please forgive my writing skills.

[ScottG]

rhagfo wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
An F350 6.7 diesel would be a jewel.

Fish, OP is looking for a TV not an engagement ring! :B

That fiver is best towed with a real strong Tractor Engine Cummins/Asian 3500 DRW, will be a great fit.

Sorry Fish, the devil made me do it!!

There's nothing wrong with telling the truth. 😉

[rhagfo]

FishOnOne wrote:
An F350 6.7 diesel would be a jewel.

Fish, OP is looking for a TV not an engagement ring! :B

That fiver is best towed with a real strong Tractor Engine Cummins/Asian 3500 DRW, will be a great fit.

Sorry Fish, the devil made me do it!!

[Lantley]

ScottG wrote:
Check the rating of any SRW closely as you will be well over 3000# tongue weight plus the hitch, occupants and what ever else you add.
You need to consider a dually. While it may or may not be absolutely required, when you get to those weights it makes for a much more stable tow.

Agreed you are in dually land. Either of the big 3 will o the job