โAug-20-2018 01:13 PM
โAug-23-2018 06:51 AM
el.jefe wrote:BubDelicious wrote:
6.2.1.2.1 Where more then one sleeping area is provided and a sleeping area has a door as a primary means of escape to the outside of the recreational vehicle, no additional escape shall be required for this area.
Ha, well where were you a week ago? Lol.
Do you have a link to the updated version? There are still a couple things I wonder about, though it appears from what you've posted the manufacturer has more than enough wiggle room to obey the letter of the standard without adhering to the spirit of it.
What I read earlier had a not about beds in their normal sleeping position, and having to have a wide enough path. 13 inches, I believe it was. Would that apply to sofa sleepers?
I also think it's interesting that they designate "sleeping areas" rather than "rooms". By Keystone's interpretation, you could have a 40' long trailer with only a door at the far end as long as you don't put and interior doors in it.
โAug-23-2018 06:41 AM
BubDelicious wrote:
6.2.1.2.1 Where more then one sleeping area is provided and a sleeping area has a door as a primary means of escape to the outside of the recreational vehicle, no additional escape shall be required for this area.
โAug-23-2018 06:32 AM
โAug-23-2018 06:23 AM
โAug-23-2018 05:32 AM
el.jefe wrote:
NFPA 1192
6.2.1.2 Each bedroom or area designed for sleeping shall have at least two unobstructed
paths to exit.
(Keystone is saying that since it is a curtain separating the bunkhouse from the rest of the trailer and not a door it doesn't count as a separate room. Either way, the egress window is behind a door in the front bedroom)
6.2.1.3 The path to exit shall not require passing any designated exit to gain use of another
designated exit except where any part of a bed in its normal sleeping configuration is within
24 in. (610 mm) of the plane of the nearest designated exit as projected across the vehicle.
(I don't fully understand what they are saying at the end, but the egress window is forward of the exit door, so it wouldn't seem to be a valid path to escape from the rear bunkhouse)
6.2.5.1 The alternate exit, if not an exterior passage door, shall provide an opening of
sufficient size to permit unobstructed passage, keeping the major axis parallel to the plane of
the opening and horizontal at all times, of an ellipsoid generated by rotating about the minor
axis an ellipse having a major axis of 24 in. (610 mm) and a minor axis of 17 in. (432 mm).
(My slider windows might fit this standard if they opened all the way, but they don't open far enough.)
By all of these sections, I believe the 2018 3290bh fails to meet the NFPA standard.
โAug-22-2018 08:13 PM
โAug-22-2018 08:30 AM
myredracer wrote:
Curious if you might have a link to their requirements?
โAug-22-2018 08:19 AM
Ralph Cramden wrote:Curious if you might have a link to their requirements?
The egress window requirement is specified by the NHTSA.....not the RVIA.
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โAug-20-2018 04:17 PM
el.jefe wrote:
The RVIA sticker certifies compliance with NFPA 1192. As I understand it, RVIA is a big deal. It would be hard to sell, finance, or insure an rv without it, at least thats what I've been told. I'm not expecting RVIA to do inspections, but it is at least a standard to which manufacturers can be help accountable, isn' tit?
โAug-20-2018 03:32 PM
myredracer wrote:
Here's what RVIA has to say about NFPA and other standards. Maybe try contacting them? They have no authority to enforce NFPA 1192........