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Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos

67avion
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Without going into too much painful detail, we had a mishap several week-ends ago. While working with sand bag crews on the Mississippi River, the truck and camper fell into the flood waters as a road collapsed. Because of a number of issues dealing with the wrecker truck, we had to release the camper as the truck was reeled up over the bank. The good news is that the truck is as good as new after a thorough rinsing, inspection of brakes, etc. The bad news is that the camper was thoroughly drowned. A lot of people had far worse trouble than we did, so we consider ourselves lucky. The floods are ongoing as I write.

Our planned trip to Montana in June is called off. heh.

However, I have now convinced my dear Jane that its time to really update the TC. After drying for several days we pulled out the interior. Amazingly the Zolatone paint that I had applied last year is good as new after a cleaning.



Without burdening the TC family overmuch, I'd like to ask some advice other than don't park too near a flood :-).

My DW was overjoyed that I had a plan for the bathroom: a composting toilet developed by Nature's Head http://www.natureshead.net/. Our holding tank was practically unusable and there was no real grey water tank on the 67 Avion. Our plan is to rip out the bathroom and install one of these and converting the blackwater to a greywater tank. Any experience with this?

Finally, the roof. I admit that I have not really done the work I should have. Now, I need to remove the various sealants on the roof and repair it. We are also setting up for a solar installation. Any advice as to this?



Here's hoping I have posted the pictures correctly. And many thanks in advance for your advice.
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69_Avion
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67avion wrote:
Sweet Jane and I are sitting next to our Avion next to the water of a lake near Council Grove, Kansas....the head of the Santa Fe Trail. There's a cooling breeze that keeps us more than comfortable as we enjoy a few cold beers.

The Avion is such a pleasure at times like this. It's like an old friend who has spent a lot of time with you. And I must say, Canjunavion's quote that every gas station is a press conference is true. No matter where we stop people come over smiling - asking about the camper. Something about the old girl makes people happy.

And it makes us happy too!

Onward!

You could be enjoying a delightful 112 degrees in Phoenix. LOL
Ford F-350 4x4 Diesel
1988 Avion Triple Axle Trailer
1969 Avion C-11 Camper

67avion
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Sweet Jane and I are sitting next to our Avion next to the water of a lake near Council Grove, Kansas....the head of the Santa Fe Trail. There's a cooling breeze that keeps us more than comfortable as we enjoy a few cold beers.

The Avion is such a pleasure at times like this. It's like an old friend who has spent a lot of time with you. And I must say, Canjunavion's quote that every gas station is a press conference is true. No matter where we stop people come over smiling - asking about the camper. Something about the old girl makes people happy.

And it makes us happy too!

Onward!

Ocean_Avion_TC
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ticki2 - Thanks for confirming the method in determining the age of the Avion. I checked the ID plate and it at least is a C-11 Ultra. So I have gone back and updated my signature block to indicate the true year of my Avion. I am looking forward to the trip and will definitely provide a trip report for those that may be interested.

69 Avion it makes sense that there would be screws under the cab over as there is wood just above. Not sure why the PO would not have put at least a few screws in ...
70 Avion C11 Ultra
08 GMC 3500 Sierra

69_Avion
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My 1969 Avion camper is not a C-11.

It says that it is a model: 9-3513SD
The serial number is: S-11138


I think mine was made in California.
Ford F-350 4x4 Diesel
1988 Avion Triple Axle Trailer
1969 Avion C-11 Camper

69_Avion
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I don't think the area under the cabover had rivets. Mine had clutch head screws that I replaces with stainless steel screws and plastic washers to eliminate any reaction.
Ford F-350 4x4 Diesel
1988 Avion Triple Axle Trailer
1969 Avion C-11 Camper

ticki2
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Ocean Avion



If you take the letters in the serial number and find it's numerical place in the alphabet it will give you the year , G = 7 and J = 0 . The 50 is its place in the production run .

Interesting that yours has stays for the upper cabinet doors . All the Avions I have seen have magnetic catches attached to the ceiling .

Nice trip you have planned , it is on my to-do list . You do realize you will owe us a trip report .
'68 Avion C-11
'02 GMC DRW D/A flatbed

Ocean_Avion_TC
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67avion wrote:
Glad to have you on board. At a certain point we will name you an official Avionista and share the secret route to Muley Point.......


I had never heard of Muley Point, as it turns out it is in one of the few areas of North America I have not traveled, the American south west. At some point I intend on correcting that wrong and I am definitely intrigued and thus will need that secret route ๐Ÿ™‚
70 Avion C11 Ultra
08 GMC 3500 Sierra

Ocean_Avion_TC
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Well its been a busy time since my last post. Thanks for the welcome I have to say this forum is just a wealth of information and I want to thank those that take the time to pass along all their knowledge.

I am now a little confused, I was advised the camper was a 1969 however on the water tank I noted a date stamp of 1970 I suppose the tank could have been replaced). The serial number is GJ-050. Does anyone have a list comparing serial numbers to year of manufacture?

Ticki2 โ€“ Unfortunately the pictures were a little deceiving. However there are no bullet holes as others have been dealing with. There is damage around the front right lower corner and near the clearance light on the front right corner. For some reason a lot of the rivets were missing underneath the overhang. I was able to source some water resistant (nothing is waterproof) rivets at a tractor trailer repair place and they also advised they could supply roof sealant and any aluminium I would need.

I have had to rewire the exterior lights as the PO had not hooked up the reverse or clearance lights and the wire that was used was a couple of pieces of old extension cord. I took the time to put on a new 7 pin plug and 7 strand wire. Surprise, surprise almost all the lights work. Only one clearance light on the front had to be checked and it was missing the bulb and the ground was not connected.




As there was propane remaining in one of the old horizontal tanks Iโ€™ve confirmed that the propane stove works. The other tank has been given to a friend in the propane business to get re-certified and filled. He was surprised by the tank as he had never seen one before. I have not checked the heater yet but Iโ€™m not planning any winter camping at the moment โ€ฆ not quite as cold as where Garry is camping.

When taking off all the upper cabinet doors I found out I am missing two of the stays. Does anyone know where I can purchase them? Picture below. I have purchased the two types available from Lee Valley which is a very good source of hardware but they are not the same length. I checked Vintage RV and unfortunately they do not have anything listed. Also noted multiple types of screws and some damage to the cabinet carcases where the screw holes are. Now I see some finer woodworking in my future. The upper cabinet doors painted and just finishing off a couple coats of varathane before the re-install which should be done this coming weekend.



Here are some interior pictures currently. I repainted the top of the stove. Condition is pretty good until you look in the "closet" and find the skeltons.













Finally got around to putting water into the water tank โ€ฆ which thankfully held. Turned on the old par pump and โ€ฆ. no water movement. Fortunately a friend has just replaced a pump he had in his Fuzion toy hauler because he wanted one with more flow. When I tested it, the pump worked but the pipework to the hot water tank had been disconnected. The fitting is an odd size so once I find some fittings I will have to try the water systems again. Ultimate goal for now is to get water to the toilet. If not we will just fill up some water cans and take with us. It is now obvious PO did not antifreeze the water system so I am concerned on how much hidden damage there is. I agree 67Avion I see pex in my avions's future but for now ...



Drove through some very heavy rains the other morning and noted a leak around the rear vent and coming out of the top of the front curbside window. A look at the roof and again some interesting products up there done by POs. One side of the roof is covered in a metallic foil put on in approximately 6 inch strips the length of the camper.

So bottom line; I have leaks, wood rot, plumbing issues, no steps, no hot water tank โ€ฆ and the bathroom will need to be gutted and rebuilt properly. However we stayed in it the other night, and enjoyed it. So for now the plan is to do the minimum needed in order to spend two weeks going through western Newfoundland, Labrador, eastern Quebec and New Brunswick. Garry I will take a page from your book, use it as is and repair and modify when time and money allows.

I had the awning partially out and it looks in pretty good shape. Meant to set it up and take some pictures, will do so for my next post, this one is definitely long enough, my apologies.
70 Avion C11 Ultra
08 GMC 3500 Sierra

D1trout
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The secret route to Muley Point indeed. A fanciful place and far away, a golden city shining in the sun...
Onward!

D1trout
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Ticki2, I'd suggest that the simplest and cheapest solution would be to make an exact copy in fiberglass using the old tank as your 'plug'. Glass over it, cut it in half, remove the old tank and glass the halves back together. The result would be larger all around by the thickness of the laminate. For an exact size copy, use that first fiberglass part as your mold for laminating another fiberglass tank inside. It would be quite a straightforward job, even if you have no experience with fiberglass.

I considered several tank options for Argo. With so many plastic tanks available, it would seem a suitable size could be found. My welder is going to fabricate a couple of aluminum tanks for me in the new Argo configuration. A competent welder could duplicate your plastic tank in aluminum or stainless easily.

At one point, I considered putting a flexible bladder inside the black water space in Argo's bustle. Many sizes and fittings available in that scenario.

The end result for me was to create an integral tank, using the space inside the bustle occupied by the plastic tank as three sides and the bottom. I laminated a top, the fourth side, and a couple of internal baffles of fiberglass inside the bustle. Also a straightforward job. The folks at TAP could probably connect you with someone who could do that for you, if you didn't want to take it on yourself.

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67avion
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Ocean Avion, welcome to the Forum. We look forward to hearing more about your coach. I designed a simple cloth triangular shade for my Avion, but I'd like to see some photos of the workings of your OEM awning. Take lots of photos, post them and you'll get lots of advice. As to the plumbing system, I suspect you'll pull out the lines and install Pex and be done with it. I replaced my hot water heater with a new unit that slid right in. It's back there in the thread, I think, including the model number. I also suspect you'll put in a new water pump and perhaps a new water tank.

Then there's the black water tank and fashioning a gray water tank. We've all done this stuff so you'll have a lot of knowledgable folks.

I'm sure you are aware of the pitfalls of a restoration project. It can get overwhelming and discouraging. We've all been there too.

Best of luck. Glad to have you on board. At a certain point we will name you an official Avionista and share the secret route to Muley Point.......

69_Avion
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I had mine made by Premier Industries Inc. in Phoenix. As I recall, it cost around $450 to have it made. I designed the new tank and made it taller to take out all but one 3/4" piece of plywood that was above the old tank. I also made it wider on the top part because there was plenty of room. It was tight getting the new tank in, but it fit.

Page 72 on this forum.

When I went in to have the tank made, I had the old tank as a pattern and I had cutout cardboard patterns for the new tank along with a drawing. The only issue I had is that I didn't specify that the 3" drain needed a 1/4" per foot angle when welded into the tank. I had to have it removed and a new one put in with the angle on the drain. I think it is around 20 gallons now.

If I could find a plastic manufacturer, that would probably be much cheaper, but I didn't have that available.
Ford F-350 4x4 Diesel
1988 Avion Triple Axle Trailer
1969 Avion C-11 Camper

ticki2
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Unfortunately the tank is polypropylene , not ABS . Trying my hand at plastic welding to see if I can salvage the rest of the season . Taps Plastic has a product they claim will stick to polypropylene called poly weld , may give that a try if the weld doesn't work . Eventually will have to look into a tank being made as nothing I've seen comes close to the proper shape .

69 avion , IIRC you had a SS tank made , any details , thanks
'68 Avion C-11
'02 GMC DRW D/A flatbed

69_Avion
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ticki2 wrote:
Seems I have developed a small leak in the black water tank . Has anyone had any luck repairing one ?

My original tank had so many hairline cracks that it wasn't worth chasing them.
Ford F-350 4x4 Diesel
1988 Avion Triple Axle Trailer
1969 Avion C-11 Camper

Dave_Pete
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I did a long time ago. Is it ABS? I mixed some ABS chips made from multi cuts with a circular saw on some ABS 2 " pipe, with some ABS black cement and got me a nice gooey paste. Then I applied the paste to a cleaned up crack area (I think it was where the tank mated to the drain pipe or where the tank shape changed over to the female socket for the drain pipe) and then let it cure a few days.Overlapped a few inches and put it on thick you know. Also dug out the Crack first. It melted into the tank and made a strong patch as I recall.