Don't believe everything you read

[mexicoruss]

Greetings friends, just a reminder that a lot of stuff you read on the internet is semi or totally biased to fit whatever the publisher wants you to think, much like this post. I have learned there are many Rvers from Canada that are making their way from Mexico home back to Canada. They read stories about how easy it was to cross all the way to how hard it was and then yesterday someone said they were refused entry into the USA at a Texas Port of Entry. This confuses everyone...here's the scoop, as of today, if you are from Canada and on your way from Mexico you will be able to cross as long as you are not planning to stay in the USA. You are not considered immigrants, you are passing through.
The folks that posted the other day that they were not allowed in even though they were Canadian left out a lot of details. Turns out they have a place in Texas, whether it is rented or owned is not germane to the conversation. They were driving their vehicle which was plated in Texas. From the border patrols point of view they were presenting themselves as residents of Texas. Problem is they didn't have the proof that their USA residency was valid, if they had it at all. Point is in my opinion they tried to start a fire on social media claiming to have been turned down at the USA border because they were Canadians.
My advice is do not believe everything you read at first glance, if the story interest you then dig deeper to discover all the little details, it may change your reaction to the story.

[moisheh]

Navagator: There is no problem with the border agents in Canada. When we returned they did not even ask us what goods we were bringing into Canada. A quick where have you been and when did you leave Canada. Then he read from laminated paper . It quoted some law from a hundred years ago and asked if we were sick and did we contact anyone that was sick. He stated that we could stop to buy fuel but no shopping. We were to take a direct route to our home with no visiting on the way. He also mentioned that we could be fined around $1000 for not obeying. A few days later they advertised a hotline where people could report travelers. Obviously if you were on a supermarket lot with an RV you would be in trouble. There were lots of people not following the law. I don't think anyone was fined but a visit from the RCMP is not pleasant! WE stayed in for the 14 days. While quarantined our TV quit. Luckily we had a smaller spare in the basement. After the 14th day I went to Costco for a new TV. That was a rude awakening to the new normal. Seniors can shop from 8 to9 am. WE live 65 miles from Costco. Naturally it was a colder day with high winds. At 7:15 I got in line with all the old folks and froze. Talleyho would have to go to the ER for frostbite. When I exited Costco 45 minutes later the line snaked through the lot and around the back of the building. I am told it is a 2.5 hour ordeal. Welcome to the new normal where you have to line up for food like Russians that line up for bread. When we got home the MH was not drained of water. It was cold but I was able to drain and blow out the water lines. But we have an Aqua Hot and the water lines in the boiler are so small they will burst with just a few drops of water. I have both a diesel burner and electric elements in the boiler. During the day the electric was good enough but on cold nites I fired up the Diesel. Of course I complained to the wife that our electric bill will be about $250 higher than normal. Lots of fun. But compared to what Drs., nurses, firefighters and police are enduring it was nothing!
Back in Kino the Mexicans are starving. Sonora has a real stay at home program. You can only be on the street to buy groceries or medications. Curfew, Only one person per car. The roads are blocked and police only let in trucks, ambulances, etc. All stores other than food are closed. No construction. The fishermen cannot sell their product as the buyers cannot bring their trucks into Kino. Very sad.

Moisheh

[Talleyho69]

"If you cannot stay warm in your RV at minus 3 centigrade it is time for a new RV"

I can't survive at those temperatures!!! I visited snow twice in my life, each time for an afternoon, and my goal now is to never see it in person again!!!

[navegator]

I do not think that border agents or insurance companies will be applying rules and laws without looking at facts as being out of country or state in this times of stress, as long as you have proof that you were stuck on the other side and abiding by a stay put request from either a state or federal government, or provincial authority.

Then of course there is always an AS-OL that can-not or will-not think out side the box and you will need to contact a lawyer ot solicitor witch ever may apply and have a judge or one of those guys in a white wig render a veredict on your request and in your favour.

navegator

[moisheh]

If you cannot stay warm in your RV at minus 3 centigrade it is time for a new RV
The Canadian rules about quarantining are well written. It is true that full timing for a Canadian is difficult . Staying in the cusa is a bad option. Not only would you be breaking the usa rules for the length of a USA stay you would have very little or no health insurance. We crossed from Mexico into the USA the first day that all 3 countries closed their borders. No real problem. I doubt that any country is worried abouta handfull of full timers. I have not read of any Canadians starving because they cannot leave the house. The day we got home one of our neighbors met us with some fresh food. 2 others called and offered to go shopping. Some Canadian full timers stay in a semi permanent park when they return. Other campers would
certainly assist.

[charlestonsouth]

Moisheh -- Those Canadian rules seem to put a full time Canadian rver "between a rock and a hard place." 1) a full time rver at this time of year in Canada would have a hard time keeping warm in their RV for 14 continuous days and where would they park with everything shut down and even worse if they had no family to depend on in their province.

2) Let us say that the rver left Canada sometime in November 2019 and has been traveling around in Central America, Mexico, and US. Then they cross over to the US, finds out about the new Canadian rules, and decides to hunker down in a few rural US states with warmer weather than in their Canadian province and the rural population has no problems with it; the rvers can even shop for their own groceries and pump their gas. Why would you immediately return to Canada under those rules?

Yes, there may be a problem with Canada (but not the US) and the old seven-month rule regarding being out of country for more than seven months. The Canadian rver would have to watch that date very carefully.

[moisheh]

Good thread. But Canadians cannot cross from Canada to the US at this time for tecreation
Somone here posted that we would be welcomed. Not only that when one returns from the usa you must quarantine for 14 days
I have not heard of any snowbirds in Mexico being refused entry to the usa. But they asked us if Canada was our destination. Once we hit Canada we were told we could not stop for anything but fuel. No groceries or visiting

[edatlanta]

There was a radio talk show icon in the Atlanta market that retired a few years back that would say pretty regular (I'm paraphrasing now since I don't have the exact quote): Don't believe anything I tell you unless you have verified it yourself from independent sources because I will lie to you.

[mexicoruss]

amazing to me that people have to politicize everything.....I don't care if you watch Fox or CNN or what you believe in ---- just don't be stupid.

[Talleyho69]

We so treasure our very early morning walks on the beach with our dogs because of the solitude. Then, we put the dogs away (hosed, toweled and fed) and go out and swim a mile as the sun rises.

It makes the current issues seem smaller.

Peace is good.

[Wm_Elliot]

Please, no politics. There's just too much division, anger and stupidity revealed when politics are discussed. As if things weren't bad enough already....

[navigator2346]

jdc1 wrote:

fla-gypsy wrote:
Fake news lives on

Must have came from FOX News

No, probably CNN or MSNBC

[jdc1]

fla-gypsy wrote:
Fake news lives on

Must have came from FOX News

[fla-gypsy]

Fake news lives on

[valhalla360]

Probably 95% of stories set up to draw outrage have more to the story.