NPS campgrounds closed during shutdown
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Jan-20-2018 06:09 AM
Any others have direct knowledge?
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Jan-22-2018 03:57 PM
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Jan-20-2018 01:38 PM
A further update - For anyone interested, as of 12:20, 1/21/18, the water fill & dump stations at La Posa South are open. Long lines because it is Big Tent Week.
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Jan-20-2018 12:58 PM
In fact, it could be several days before the full impact of the shutdown is fully felt by the public.
Government agencies began the process of shutting down at midnight Friday after Congress failed to pass a spending bill to keep them operating. But not every government employee was sent home.
Federal workers deemed “essential” are still on the job, and key government functions — such as national security operations and law enforcement work — remain up and running.
Other agencies have residual funds that will keep them operating for several days. But if the shutdown drags on, they, too, could run out of money and have to close their doors.
Here’s a look at what you can expect during the Government Shutdown of 2018:
What’s open?
The mail is still being delivered, Social Security checks are still being processed, the Medicare and Medicaid programs are still running, and veterans’ hospitals are still operating.
The national monuments will remain accessible as will portions of many national parks. The Smithsonian Institution’s museums and National Zoo are open for now, but could close as early as Monday.
Airports are still operating, and air traffic controllers and Transportation Security Administration officials are still on the job. But you could still run into some delays if you’re traveling because “non-essential” employees will be furloughed.
You can also travel by train. Even though Amtrak depends on federal subsidies, it also gets revenue from ticket sales and has managed to stay open during past shutdowns.
What’s closed?
Only “essential” government employees will report to work, so most federal agencies and departments are closed for now.
The IRS, for example, is expected to furlough 56% of its workers, which means most of the agency’s programs will be shuttered. That includes the agency’s helplines, which are turned off during the shutdown — a potential problem for taxpayers seeking guidance on massive changes this year.
Most employees at other departments and agencies, such as the Department of Education, the National Transportation Safety Board and the Consumer Product Safety Commission, are furloughed, which means that ongoing investigations and programs will be temporarily halted.
The Environmental Protection Agency remains open, but just for a limited time. EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt advised all employees to return to work next week, but said further guidance will be issued the shutdown extends beyond Jan. 26.
What’s different?
The big difference this time around is that monuments and parts of most national parks will remain open during the shutdown.
During the last shutdown, in 2013, the Obama administration closed park entrances and put up barriers around national monuments. The policy sparked a public outrage when veterans were turned away from the World War II Memorial in Washington.
Trump and his team don’t want to repeat that fiasco. Most national parks roads and monuments and the private concessions that serve them remain open this time.
Services that require staffing and maintenance, such as campgrounds, full service restrooms, and concessions that require some park staff or assistance will not be operating, the Interior Department said....."
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Jan-20-2018 11:17 AM
steveh27 wrote:
And because the NPS is shutdown they have no way of putting out any info.
Which is why a thread kept on topic would be so helpful.
So far, we have word that Quartzite BLM is open.
Any others known?
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Jan-20-2018 10:34 AM
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Jan-20-2018 09:56 AM
If I see a forest service leo at work next week I will ask what they know.
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Jan-20-2018 09:32 AM
Could we just stick to the campground information and leave politics, politicians, etc., out of it? (Like vermilye's post)
Heck maybe we could end up with a single thread that lists all known information on the campgrounds so that folks can figure out their plans. Wouldn't that be great?!
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Jan-20-2018 08:35 AM
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Jan-20-2018 08:16 AM
The difference is in total shutdown summarily, or partial closure while maximizing access that can be maintained??
Has anyone on here been told to leave yet?
Has anyone tried to access a National Park or Monument today?
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Jan-20-2018 07:38 AM
Did find this "Visitors at NPS campgrounds won't be asked to leave, but they will be notified that there won't be any services. Those with reservations for a later date will be notified that NPS is not providing services (including check-in/check-out) and there is no guarantee that their reserved campsite will be ready and available."
Dewey02 - Don't recall if our contact was a "Ranger" or a "LEO" but we did spend several days in Big Bend during the 2013 shutdown and left only when we decided to move on. We were cautioned that we'd be on our own if we had any problems on the trails or backroads.
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Jan-20-2018 06:35 AM
huachuca wrote:
I've seen several reports indicating the National Parks will remain open but all facilities (visitor centers, restrooms, etc) will be closed and locked. Campgrounds will remain but no amenities will be provided.
We were in Big Bend NP for the last go round of this. After a couple of days, we finally found a ranger who told us we should leave but, since they weren't working, they couldn't make us go.
General park employees (AKA "Rangers") will not be working.
However, NPS Law Enforcement Officers (AKA LEO's) are considered essential employees and will be working. If the campground is closed, you can bet they will show up and make you leave.
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Jan-20-2018 06:24 AM
We were in Big Bend NP for the last go round of this. After a couple of days, we finally found a ranger who told us we should leave but, since they weren't working, they couldn't make us go.
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Jan-20-2018 06:18 AM
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