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Stops Catalytic Converter thefts! (inexpensive method)

SJ-Chris
Explorer II
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Cost: $40 or less per RV
Time: About an hour.
Level of difficulty: Low

RVs, being somewhat high up to begin with, are easy targets for catalytic converter thieves. I have 3 RVs. One of the cats was stolen one night when I parked the RV in front of my home. It was covered by insurance (~$4000 to replace), but it put that RV out of commission for about 6 weeks to get the insurance claim taken care of, the parts to come in, and to get it fixed. My RVs usually are parked in storage in a yard that doesn't seem like it would be hard for thieves to visit. In fact, I'm actually surprised they haven't all been stolen. So, I decided to do something to reduce my chances of having another one stolen...

An easy way to protect your catalytic converter...
Simple project any of you can likely do...

Supplies:

This was enough to do 2 and a half of my RVs (I have 3 RVs).
Each RV took about 20' of 3/16" steel cable and 14 of the wire rope clamp clips.

For me doing 3 RVs, here is what I needed:
1 can of VHT Orange Hi-temp engine paint: ($15)
https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c/flameproof/vht-flameproof-11-ounce-flat-orange-spray-paint/vht1/sp114?q=vht+orange

32 pack of wire rope clamp clips: ($16) (...actually need 5-6 more to finish the 3rd RV) These were much cheaper than buying at Home Depot.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083P78JP6

50' of 3/16" UNCOATED steel wire cable: ($27) (...actually need about 10 more feet to finish the 3rd RV)
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-3-16-in-x-50-ft-Galvanized-Uncoated-Steel-Wire-Rope-803172/203958869

Cable cutter: ($23 with typical Harbor Freight 20% off coupon)
https://www.harborfreight.com/28-inch-cable-cutters-6649.html
Or, you might have another way to cut this type of cable. Or, you might be able to borrow a cable cutter from a friend... Note: The one in the picture above was NOT enough to cut or even put a dent in this cable, which I guess is a good thing. The 28" one from Harbor Freight worked great. For my install, I started with a 12' piece of cable and wrapped it from the rear to the front and then secured it in one or two places. Then I took smaller pieces of cable (1-3') and attached it at other various places. An alternative, and possible way around not being able to cut the cable (if you don't have a way) would be to purchase a 25' cable and weave/connect it all as one piece through the various attachment points. If you do this, be sure to put lots of the clamps in the appropriate places so that each connection point needs to be cut by a thief in order to remove the catalytic converter.

Heat wraps: ($5) at Harbor freight for a huge assortment. This is to reduce frayed ends when you cut the cable.


Before:



During:



After:



The visual deterrent is hopefully enough to get the thieves to move on to an easier target. On my RVs the cable is independently attached to 6 or 7 different places (including 2-3 from the top which would be harder for a thief to get to in a short time). EACH would have to be cut in order to get the catalytic converter out.

In the absence of all this, a thief with a cordless sawsall would only need to cut through 2 places with easy access (right before the catalytic converter, and right after) and would likely be done in less than 2 minutes. With this system, they would need to cut all of the additional cable locations where it is attached to the frame. This would, I believe, be a bit challenging with a sawsall as the cable will not necessarily remain still while they attempt to cut it. Also, the attachment points up high will be difficult to reach with a sawsall. If they happen to have cable cutters with them (...I'm guessing most of the time they do not), it still creates a situation where they will have to spend significantly more time trying to remove an orange catalytic converter (...which effectively flags the catalytic converter as stolen to authorities and some who are receiving/recycling these).

The clamps are just held on with 2 nuts. I don't think a thief would ever spend the time unbolting all of them as it would take them probably 20-30 minutes to do so.

So, for ~$30-40 you can probably reduce your chances of having your catalytic converter stolen by 80-90%.

Want to reduce your chances even further?? Here's what else I have done to provide more security at my RV for very little $$$. I added this simple security system to my RV: ($54)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OHD15E6
I attached the horn/alarm to my chassis battery. It has some electrical draw, but my chassis battery gets charged by my solar via a Trik-L-Start (http://www.lslproducts.net/TLSPage.html) so it doesn't matter. If you have solar on your coach batteries only, you could attach this horn/alarm to your coach batteries. The horn is quite loud!

I attach one of the motion sensors underneath my RV pointing right at the catalytic converter aiming towards the top cable connections. Doing this, makes it so it avoids any false alarms from animals, or leaves, etc moving underneath the RV. (Note: Sometimes a hot catalytic converter sets this motion alarm off, so you might need to let the system cool a bit before setting your alarm). Now, if a thief DOES decide they want to spend the time trying to cut out my catalytic converter along with all the multiple cable connections, they will certainly trip the very loud alarm system and they will have to leave unsuccessfully. ๐Ÿ™‚

I will mount one of the other motion sensors inside the RV (in case anyone breaks in while the RV is in storage or if I'm away from it on a long hike while camping). I also put one of the window/door alarms on my external generator compartment door. I haven't done it yet, but with the extra window/door alarms (or some extra motion alarms I bought), I will likely put one in the large external trunk storage area. We all know it wouldn't take much for someone to pry open a compartment (or use a common key).

Well, I think that about covers it! For ~$100 you can easily add some serious theft protection to your RV and catalytic converter. Inexpensive peace of mind...

Stay safe everyone!
Chris
San Jose, CA
Own two 2015 Thor Majestic 28a Class C RVs
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C_Schomer
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My vehicles are always inside at night and Iโ€™ve never had a converter stolen or even tampered with. If I left a vehicle out at night, I would park it over one of the many harvester ant nests! Craig
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SJ-Chris
Explorer II
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Grit dog wrote:
And Chris, my only concern may be that your setup begins to rattle while in use.


Good catch. I worried/thought about that while I was installing it. Those cable clamps have a tendency of tightening things up when bundling them together. I don't think it will rattle, but if it does I may have to add a couple more clamps.

-Chris
San Jose, CA
Own two 2015 Thor Majestic 28a Class C RVs

SJ-Chris
Explorer II
Explorer II
My apologies if I offended anyone. Not my intention. We are all on team-RV/TT. Hopefully none of you have to experience a CC theft.

Safe travels!
Chris
San Jose, CA
Own two 2015 Thor Majestic 28a Class C RVs

Grit_dog
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And Chris, my only concern may be that your setup begins to rattle while in use.
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Grit_dog
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Cptnvideo wrote:
Give it a rest, Chris.


No, he should go on for days with all the rude responses he's received. This forum never fails to deliver humor like the Grumpy Old Men movies!
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Grit_dog
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RLS7201 wrote:
My RV sits on it's own full service pad right next to the house.
My CCW qualifying target is posted in plain site, for those that want to own some of my property. It also stopped the neighbor kids from taking a short cut across my yard. MO. law allows me to protect my property as I would protect my life.
Afew years ago my neighbor got robbed at a ATM. As the crook with drew, my neighbor emptied his CCW clip in the bad guy. The county court said good job and closed the case. Now we don't have to spend thousands of dollars a year to house and feed the crook.

Richard


That's a great story, and heartwarming as well, but you're being as obtuse as the rest of the detractors....unless of course, you stay home 24/7/365 staying p at night watching your camper, taking shifts with the ole lady so there's daytime coverage of the "target" as well.....:S
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Couple of Arctic Fox TCs - Sold

valhalla360
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SJ-Chris wrote:
Sadly, it's not 99.99%. That would be 1 out of 10,000. Probably everyone on this forum knows one or more people who have had them stolen. Yes, the number is still small, but nowhere near 1 in 10,000. I've had TWO stolen. at 99.99% that would make me 1 in 100,000,000.


I guess I need to stay out of your high end multimillion dollar neighborhoods.

I've never lost one and I don't know anyone who's lost one.
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mgirardo
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Explorer
SJ-Chris wrote:
Sorry that happened to you....it sucks!

I'm curious, what did you do next? Did you move your trailer to a safer storage location (harder for the criminals)? Did you do anything to deter future criminals like install motion lighting? Did you just get your trailer fixed and put it back in the same storage with zero changes (hoping nothing happens again)? Or do you now store your TT and just leave the doors unlocked to make it easier for the criminals?

One thing comes to mind here... It doesn't sound like the people who hit your TT were criminals in the sense that they were looking to steal items for profit/$$ (maybe). It sounds like it might have been (as you mentioned) someone just looking for a place to sleep, or do drugs, etc. Or maybe it was kids/teenagers out causing trouble.

I hope they have moved on to somewhere else and leave you alone (or better yet, gotten caught in the act somewhere else). It sucks when people mess with our stuff.

-Chris


Thanks Chris.

When I got home from work (not self-employed at the time), I brought it home, even though the HOA did not allow it. Oh, well. I put it in the backyard out of view and then replaced the door. Eventually, we took it to another lot where it stayed for years without incident. We stored our MH for years at the new lot without incident.

I was skeptical about the Police's assessment that someone was looking for a place to stay. We had nothing of value in the HTT other than pots and pans, silverware and plastic dishware. I thought it was odd that someone looking for a place to stay would have the tools necessary to cut a coupler lot.

The door, delivered, was cheaper than the insurance deductible and I was able to easily replace it myself.

-Michael
Michael Girardo
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Cptnvideo
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Give it a rest, Chris.
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SJ-Chris
Explorer II
Explorer II
PastorCharlie wrote:


All that needs to be cut are the 4 cables wrapped around the conveter and it will fall right out when the pipe is cut. Four (4) cable cuts on the bottom of converter. Zip, Zip, Zip, Zip and it is gone.


It's more of a mangled mess than that. It has wraps around the CC connected to the frame at several points, but it also has a cable that runs from front to back under the straps of the heat shield and many of the connections are to that as well. And, as it is wrapping around the CC it also has some connections to the cable that runs the length. It will likely require cutting all 6-7 connection points. I suppose it could appear like a tricky puzzle where if you stare at it for 10-15 minutes and you follow every cable line and all the various connection points you might be able to save yourself from cutting 1 of the connections. But nobody would ever do that...they would simply try to start cutting everything they see hoping that it eventually comes loose. And while they are doing this, a 115db alarm is screaming for all to hear. I doubt a thief would want to stick around. I guess we'll see.

My contention: My catalytic converters are now LESS likely to get stolen than before.

-Chris
San Jose, CA
Own two 2015 Thor Majestic 28a Class C RVs

SJ-Chris
Explorer II
Explorer II
RLS7201 wrote:
SJ-Chris wrote:
RLS7201 wrote:
My RV sits on it's own full service pad right next to the house.
My CCW qualifying target is posted in plain site, for those that want to own some of my property. It also stopped the neighbor kids from taking a short cut across my yard. MO. law allows me to protect my property as I would protect my life.
Afew years ago my neighbor got robbed at a ATM. As the crook with drew, my neighbor emptied his CCW clip in the bad guy. The county court said good job and closed the case. Now we don't have to spend thousands of dollars a year to house and feed the crook.

Richard


I support your right to protect your property.

You may not feel the need to add the ~$100 worth of protection that I have, but let me ask you a question... Would you prefer....

a) A thief spending 1-2 minutes under your RV stealing your CC with their sawsall and the amount of noise that would make, or

b) A thief needing 3-8 minutes of time underneath your RV trying to steal your CC, and having a 115db alarm blasting to alert you of their presence?

Hope nothing ever gets stolen from you!
Chris


None of the above..I prefer a thief 6 foot under. That way we don't have to pay for his trial of pay to house him. If all the theifs were out of service, none of us would have to spend our $$ trying to protect ourselves from them.

Richard

PS: My MH was manufactured without a CC.


Well, Option "b" above will give you the best chance to achieve your goal, so I'll put you down for Option b. lol.... ๐Ÿ™‚
San Jose, CA
Own two 2015 Thor Majestic 28a Class C RVs

PastorCharlie
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Explorer
SJ-Chris wrote:
PastorCharlie wrote:
The cables add about another 30-60 seconds to removing the cat. It is surprising what one can do in a second who is trained in their profession. LSU football team made a touchdown in 1 second.

Tools needed: Battery powered high speed cut-off tool.


With seemingly an endless supply of easy targets, my hope is that a thief will take one look and move on to another vehicle. They likely crawl underneath a vehicle with just a cordless sawsall in hand as that will do the trick 99% of the time. If they have to fetch another tool from their vehicle (high speed cut-off tool) it adds time. Or, perhaps the cables can be cut with their sawsall in hand. Regardless, it turns their job of cutting just 2 simple and sturdy access spots (right in front of and right behind the cat) into cutting those plus 6-7 more spots (some which require getting above the cat which would be a challenge especially with something as big as a sawsall...I could hardly reach my arm up there to install the cable). All this while a 115db alarm is blasting drawing attention to them.

Yes, given enough time and determination a thief can steal anything. What I have done for less than $100 probably makes it 5x harder for them to remove, 10x more likely they will get caught or scared off by the alarm, and 20x more likely they will simply move on to find an easier target (...at least this is my hope).

Gives me more piece of mind also (which has value). I recently had my RV (prior to this install) parked in front of my home overnight. I couldn't help but worry a little through the night that it (the CC) might not be there in the morning. Now, I'm no longer worried.

If I have any worthwhile incidents (theft, attempted but unsuccessful theft, etc) I'll certainly report back. Let me know if any of you decide to protect you catalytic converter this way. I hope it never happens, but if I ever start up my RV and hear "the rumble" from the exhaust and then I look underneath to see the main pipe(s) have been cut but the cabled cat is still hanging there because the thief gave up or got scared away, I'll be smiling and back on the road quickly.

Good luck all!
Chris



All that needs to be cut are the 4 cables wrapped around the conveter and it will fall right out when the pipe is cut. Four (4) cable cuts on the bottom of converter. Zip, Zip, Zip, Zip and it is gone.

RLS7201
Explorer
Explorer
SJ-Chris wrote:
RLS7201 wrote:
My RV sits on it's own full service pad right next to the house.
My CCW qualifying target is posted in plain site, for those that want to own some of my property. It also stopped the neighbor kids from taking a short cut across my yard. MO. law allows me to protect my property as I would protect my life.
Afew years ago my neighbor got robbed at a ATM. As the crook with drew, my neighbor emptied his CCW clip in the bad guy. The county court said good job and closed the case. Now we don't have to spend thousands of dollars a year to house and feed the crook.

Richard


I support your right to protect your property.

You may not feel the need to add the ~$100 worth of protection that I have, but let me ask you a question... Would you prefer....

a) A thief spending 1-2 minutes under your RV stealing your CC with their sawsall and the amount of noise that would make, or

b) A thief needing 3-8 minutes of time underneath your RV trying to steal your CC, and having a 115db alarm blasting to alert you of their presence?

Hope nothing ever gets stolen from you!
Chris


None of the above..I prefer a thief 6 foot under. That way we don't have to pay for his trial of pay to house him. If all the theifs were out of service, none of us would have to spend our $$ trying to protect ourselves from them.

Richard

PS: My MH was manufactured without a CC.
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SJ-Chris
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Explorer II
RLS7201 wrote:
My RV sits on it's own full service pad right next to the house.
My CCW qualifying target is posted in plain site, for those that want to own some of my property. It also stopped the neighbor kids from taking a short cut across my yard. MO. law allows me to protect my property as I would protect my life.
Afew years ago my neighbor got robbed at a ATM. As the crook with drew, my neighbor emptied his CCW clip in the bad guy. The county court said good job and closed the case. Now we don't have to spend thousands of dollars a year to house and feed the crook.

Richard


I support your right to protect your property.

You may not feel the need to add the ~$100 worth of protection that I have, but let me ask you a question... Would you prefer....

a) A thief spending 1-2 minutes under your RV stealing your CC with their sawsall and the amount of noise that would make, or

b) A thief needing 3-8 minutes of time underneath your RV trying to steal your CC, and having a 115db alarm blasting to alert you of their presence?

Hope nothing ever gets stolen from you!
Chris
San Jose, CA
Own two 2015 Thor Majestic 28a Class C RVs

SJ-Chris
Explorer II
Explorer II
jjj wrote:
My brother moved just recently to Fallon Nevada. Small little town 6 hours north of Las Vegas. While his truck and trailer were in a RV storage lot loaded and ready to go away for the week, when they arrived to leave he started up the truck and the cat was missing. they were unable to go. These thieves are everywhere.


Sorry to hear! I'm sure there was a huge amount of inconvenience your brother underwent because of this. I have no sympathy for thieves.

-Chris
San Jose, CA
Own two 2015 Thor Majestic 28a Class C RVs