Anyone Use Power Service Cetane Boost

[drillagent]

I have read on a blog or two that using Power Service Cetane Boost helps diesel trucks run better. Anyone here use it? Does it work like they claim? Is it worth using on a 2012 F250 or just on older trucks? I know that watching my speed and not having a lead foot is the best way to get good gas mileage, but I'm still looking for any way to squeeze out an extra MPG or two.

[rhagfo]

45Ricochet wrote:
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Well after reading this report, this is what I use, contacted Opti-Lube and they said during summer you can use 1/4 oz per gallon of fuel. That works out to about $0.10 per gallon.

2) Opti-Lube XPD
Multi-purpose + anti-gel
Cetane Improver, Demulsifier
HFRR 317
,
319
micron improvement.
256:1 ratio
13 oz/tank
$4.35/tank

[The_Mad_Norsky]

vietvet66-67 wrote:
I have never used any additive at all since my owners manual said DO NOT USE
ANY ADDITIVE IN THIS ENGINE. The only other comment is if you encounter a special problem, your dealer will advise a special product. In this case it is Standyne. Never had a problem, never needed any additive.

You know, owners manual is a good thing to read.

According to your signature, your truck is a 2006, so seems your owners manual would be the same age.

Here's my point.

In 2006, the diesel fuel your truck generally used was high sulfur, because the ULSD we use now was just getting started.

The high sulfur diesel then had a wear scar rating in the 420 range. Which meant good lubricating qualities.

That was then. NOW; ULSD sold in the United States has a wear scar rating of 520.

Poor lubricating quality.

Bosch and other diesel component manufacturers have said diesel fuel with a wear scar rating of 460 or higher will have long term detrimental affects on diesel components.

Europe and Canada mandate ULSD with a wear scar rating of 460. Our standards in the US are just too poor when compared with those standards.

Remember, that 2006 owners manual was not written with ULSD in mind.

[3_dog_nights]

I use the Motorcraft PS 22 in my 06 Chevy Duramax. My mechanic recomended it, he uses it in his trucks. He's done all of my work for 30 years. He has no skin in the game. I follow his recommendations.

[ronschamingjr]

bad99ram wrote:

GoPackGo wrote:
One more question to the person who had his fuel jell up.

In areas with cold weather (well below freezing in winter) - Sometimes a station (especially an in-town station that caters mostly to non-semi vehicles) will keep selling straight #2 longer then they should as winter approaches. Straight #2 will start to jell at about 20 degrees if I remember. At some point the station starts treating it with chemicals to lower the jell point as they get further into the winter season. The other way to improve the jell point of #2 is to add #1. My Father-in-law was a trucker and told me that cutting with #1 is the best way to prevent jelling problems. And based on my experiences with jelled fuel, I would agree. He also said that stations keep adjusting the mix as they get further into winter. I'm guessing that up in the really cold latitudes they run straight #1 in Jan/Feb.

When I lived up north I used to treat my fuel but I was never real confidant that it would work at below zero temps. I always tried to buy fuel from a station that mixed in some #1.

The disadvantage to #1 is that it does not lubricate as well as #2.

So I wonder if somehow you could have got caught up in a situation where it got cold and the fuel wasn't treated for the temps. And then you finally got a load of treated fuel which solved the problem.

Tim

Just for that reason when I put my tow truck in storage in October, I run it down 1/2 tank and fill up with No #1. When I take it out of storage at the end of December I don't have to worry about the fuel gel problem before I head south. Sometimes here we have -30 by that time. Stations have the winter mix set up by then. I do use power service but will switch to the winter stuff until I get far enough south.

It's been several years since I had the jelling situation. No problems since dropping and cleaning the fuel tank the second time. Also used some Bio-Kleen in a few tanks at that time and discontinued the cetane additive. Never could find a mechanic--even the dealer--who could say for sure what was causing it, but whatever it was, it was a major pain in the you-know-what.

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This thread got me curious about PS again.

I was just thinking this week since we're heading out soon I was going to try the additive again.
It's been a while since being a regular user.
Sooooo I just fueled up with pet diesel and added exactly 12 oz of PS Kleen (gray bottle) to 36 gallons.
When we head up to our destination I want to see if we get a boost from this stuff.
Our last excursion showed an average mpg of 11.8 so we'll see if power or mileage improves towing.

[bad99ram]

GoPackGo wrote:
One more question to the person who had his fuel jell up.

In areas with cold weather (well below freezing in winter) - Sometimes a station (especially an in-town station that caters mostly to non-semi vehicles) will keep selling straight #2 longer then they should as winter approaches. Straight #2 will start to jell at about 20 degrees if I remember. At some point the station starts treating it with chemicals to lower the jell point as they get further into the winter season. The other way to improve the jell point of #2 is to add #1. My Father-in-law was a trucker and told me that cutting with #1 is the best way to prevent jelling problems. And based on my experiences with jelled fuel, I would agree. He also said that stations keep adjusting the mix as they get further into winter. I'm guessing that up in the really cold latitudes they run straight #1 in Jan/Feb.

When I lived up north I used to treat my fuel but I was never real confidant that it would work at below zero temps. I always tried to buy fuel from a station that mixed in some #1.

The disadvantage to #1 is that it does not lubricate as well as #2.

So I wonder if somehow you could have got caught up in a situation where it got cold and the fuel wasn't treated for the temps. And then you finally got a load of treated fuel which solved the problem.

Tim

Just for that reason when I put my tow truck in storage in October, I run it down 1/2 tank and fill up with No #1. When I take it out of storage at the end of December I don't have to worry about the fuel gel problem before I head south. Sometimes here we have -30 by that time. Stations have the winter mix set up by then. I do use power service but will switch to the winter stuff until I get far enough south.

[vietvet66-67]

I have never used any additive at all since my owners manual said DO NOT USE
ANY ADDITIVE IN THIS ENGINE. The only other comment is if you encounter a special problem, your dealer will advise a special product. In this case it is Standyne. Never had a problem, never needed any additive.

[GoPackGo]

One more question to the person who had his fuel jell up.

In areas with cold weather (well below freezing in winter) - Sometimes a station (especially an in-town station that caters mostly to non-semi vehicles) will keep selling straight #2 longer then they should as winter approaches. Straight #2 will start to jell at about 20 degrees if I remember. At some point the station starts treating it with chemicals to lower the jell point as they get further into the winter season. The other way to improve the jell point of #2 is to add #1. My Father-in-law was a trucker and told me that cutting with #1 is the best way to prevent jelling problems. And based on my experiences with jelled fuel, I would agree. He also said that stations keep adjusting the mix as they get further into winter. I'm guessing that up in the really cold latitudes they run straight #1 in Jan/Feb.

When I lived up north I used to treat my fuel but I was never real confidant that it would work at below zero temps. I always tried to buy fuel from a station that mixed in some #1.

The disadvantage to #1 is that it does not lubricate as well as #2.

So I wonder if somehow you could have got caught up in a situation where it got cold and the fuel wasn't treated for the temps. And then you finally got a load of treated fuel which solved the problem.

Tim

[TakingThe5th]

ronschamingjr wrote:

bpounds wrote:
I used Power Service Diesel Kleen for several years. In my 6.0. The added Cetane rating can't hurt, and I think an additive is excellent preventive medicine. I switched to Optilube XPD about a year ago, and I like it better. A study shows it adds lubricity better than Diesel Kleen.

Having said that, if I had an '12 Ford with 6.7, I would ONLY use the Motorcraft additive. You can get it from Ford, or order online from many sources.

For the guy who said too much will cause gelling, that's just baloney. Don't know where you got that, but it just ain't so.

Got it from hard experience. Fuel filter kept clogging with a clear jelly-like substance. Dropped the fuel tank and cleaned it out. Kept using the additive and problem came back pretty quickly. Dropped tank again and stopped using the additive. Problem never came back. Never changed fuel purchase locations. So...not proof positive, but that was my experience.

Not to hijack, but wondering - were you using biodiesel?

[OH48Lt]

Used Power Service white jug in my 2005 6.0 Ford. Always carried a small plastic pill bottle that held just the right amount for a full tank (26 gallons). So if I needed a half-tank, only used a half bottle of PS. Main reason I used it was for the lube qualities. Don't know for sure if it helped with fuel mileage or not.

[zedd]

I use the Ford PM-22A in my '08 F250. Ford recommends it...it's in the Diesel Supplement manual. I don't know about the newer trucks but I don't see how it could hurt. I order it from dieselfiltersonline.com and buy several bottles at a time. They're a lot cheaper than from a Ford dealer. I read somewhere that Standyne makes it so you might be able to get the same stuff under their label. As expensive as it is to fix the fuel system on these truck I figure it's cheap insurance.

[rtazz17]

ronschamingjr wrote:
Whatever you do, don't use too much. Will cause terrible fuel gelling issues. Never noticed any improvement from its use. But then again, I used too much.

This is the first time ive ever heard of this ..Ive been on fordtruck.com forum for yrs on the 7.3 diesel and now 6.7 diesel forum and ive never seen a post on too much of this causing a gelling issue.Just doent make sense....Diesel will gel in the freezing cold but power service is not going to cause gelling.

[MLATION]

I have a 2013 6.7 and use power service Diesel Kleen in summer and Diesel fuel supplement in the winter. I use 16oz per fill up every other tank (38 gal)and always when towing.
I haven't seen any increases in fuel economy. I use it to add more lubrication to the fuel.

[GoPackGo]

I have a 2013 F350 diesel and run the Ford product - PM-22. Sposed to boost cetane, add lubricity (which is the main reason I use it), and make the exhaust smell like roses. Ford sells it in 20 oz bottles (PM-22A) and also gallon size (PM-22 Gal). Many dealers don't know about the gallon size, but they can order it for you if they don't have it on hand.

I bought a pump for the gallon can and just refill the smaller bottles. Dealer price varies so check several if you decide to go this route. I think I paid about $46 + tax for the gallon. The 20 oz bottles are in the $10-11 range.

I've been using it since day 1 so I don't know if it affected the power or not. This beast has enough power to pull a LOT more then my 14,000 GVW trailer. I really only care about the lubricity improvement.

Tim

[45Ricochet]

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