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Best way to raise FW

davisenvy
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I just purchased a 2016 Ram 2500 and pull a 2016 Jayco Eagle HT 29.5bhds. The Jayco seems to be a little low to begin with, but with this new Ram I am towing way high in the front. I'm about 8 in nose high. I have read about people putting 4 in subframes under their FW, but I'm a little weary of this because of warranty reasons. The only other options I see is to get new wheels/tires and a Lippert Correct Track system that says it'll lift 2 in. This gets me closer, but it still won't be level. Any other lifting suggestions? Is a subframe the only way to go?

I called the dealer where I purchased the FW and the owner said that nose high conditions don't really matter anymore because of the CRE3000 suspension that's on it. I don't really believe that to be true, but what do I know.
2006 GMC Sierra 2500HD SLT,4x4,Crew, Duramax EFI Live
2013 StarCraft Autumn Ridge
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davisenvy
Explorer
Explorer
The leaf springs are already on top of the axles. The dexter axle flip kit wouldn't do me any good. The only options I have found are bigger wheels/tires, lippert correct track and/or subframe lift.
2006 GMC Sierra 2500HD SLT,4x4,Crew, Duramax EFI Live
2013 StarCraft Autumn Ridge

2naEagle
Explorer
Explorer
If you can post a picture. You probably just need to get a Dexter axle flip kit. Also get the heavy duty wet bolts and Morryde x-factor.
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MFL
Nomad II
Nomad II
davisenvy wrote:
The leaf springs are already under the axles. Leaf springs have already been dropped to the lowest position and every adjustment has been made to try and level the FW. I am at the point where I need to buy new parts to help raise the back end of the FW to level it out. I currently have 6 in between the top of the bed rails and under side of the nose cone.


You are saying "The leaf springs are already under the axles". I doubt it, but if they are, you just need to move them on TOP of the axle. Otherwise, subframe is only option, even 4-6 inches nose high is too much.

Jerry

wing_zealot
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Explorer
Weigh the two axles individually and see if what the dealer says is true. It seems to me it's worth the $20 bucks to find out before you spend hundreds to fix a maybe problem.

MarkTwain
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Explorer
davisenvy wrote:
I just purchased a 2016 Ram 2500 and pull a 2016 Jayco Eagle HT 29.5bhds. The Jayco seems to be a little low to begin with, but with this new Ram I am towing way high in the front. I'm about 8 in nose high. I have read about people putting 4 in subframes under their FW, but I'm a little weary of this because of warranty reasons. The only other options I see is to get new wheels/tires and a Lippert Correct Track system that says it'll lift 2 in. This gets me closer, but it still won't be level. Any other lifting suggestions? Is a subframe the only way to go?

I called the dealer where I purchased the FW and the owner said that nose high conditions don't really matter anymore because of the CRE3000 suspension that's on it. I don't really believe that to be true, but what do I know.


I'll bet a $100 that the RV Owner has NEVER towed a trailer:):):) and he is full of s---:)

MarkTwain
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Explorer
rjxj wrote:
Are the axles on top of the spring or under the spring? If on top, you can do an axle "flip" and gain 4.5 or so inch.


Flipping the axles underneath the springs should fix your problem. Took my trailer to a welding shop that works on RV's. Job took about 1 hr.

davisenvy
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Explorer
The leaf springs are already under the axles. Leaf springs have already been dropped to the lowest position and every adjustment has been made to try and level the FW. I am at the point where I need to buy new parts to help raise the back end of the FW to level it out. I currently have 6 in between the top of the bed rails and under side of the nose cone.
2006 GMC Sierra 2500HD SLT,4x4,Crew, Duramax EFI Live
2013 StarCraft Autumn Ridge

Old-Biscuit
Explorer III
Explorer III
IF you have already made adjustments to:

Hitch
Pin Box
Leaf Spring Locations

And Leaf Springs are already on TOP of axles

Then you need to have a subframe lift done WITH cross bracing at shackles

With 5vr NOT hitched ....set it up level (side/side & Front/Rear)

Then back truck up so king pin is against hitch.
Take measurements that would be needed to be LEVEL when hitched and have at least 6" bedrail clearance

Then have subframe lift done using the needed 2" X ?" channel tubing and cross channel tubing at shackles to brace side to side.


As for that CRE3000 Suspension.
Well that is Morydes 'equalizer' between the front/rear leaf springs




Nose high condition is NOT corrected by that or any Brand equalizer
Rear axle will carry more weight
Pin weight will be lighter ---causes chucking
Too light of pin weight can cause swaying condition

Get it level when hitched for towing
Is it time for your medication or mine?


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azrving
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Explorer
Are the axles on top of the spring or under the spring? If on top, you can do an axle "flip" and gain 4.5 or so inch.

Durb
Explorer
Explorer
I'm with you...not buying that explanation.

davisenvy
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Explorer
Mine only had one additional hole and I have already dropped the suspension to gain another inch or so.
2006 GMC Sierra 2500HD SLT,4x4,Crew, Duramax EFI Live
2013 StarCraft Autumn Ridge

donn0128
Explorer II
Explorer II
Look under the trailer. On mine the spring perches had three holes. Originally mine was in the top one. I moved it to the lowest one and gained a couple inches.