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Brighter porch light

Njmurvin
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I have one of the standard oval shaped porch (door entry) lights. I just switched out the bulb for an LED and my wife is complaining that it isn't bright enough. I was given the bulb so I don't know the wattage - but it may be as bright as it gets for an LED for this type of bulb (automotive brake light style socket). The fixture isn't in great shape so I thought about upgrading it to something with two bulbs or just something brighter. Any suggestions?
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D_E_Bishop
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Personally I do not like the way the typical porch light directs light, I understand the reason for the designs and how difficult it is to design a fixture that shines down and does not stick out horrifically. We don't sit out very late and so lighting up our whole "patio area" is not important to us. When the campfire goes out we go in.

We want light when we approach the door that illuminates the steps and area around the steps. On our last rig I installed a 12", waterproof strip of amber LEDs under the bottom of the door threshold that illuminates the top step, that was controlled by a little 12volt remote switch or relay.

Today the remote switches come in a very large variety of functions and control up to ten or so on-off relays and amber LED strips are enclosed in plastic fixtures. There are also several approach sensors available that can be used to do a variety of things.

I like to tinker and don't like bright lights while camping so it works for me, some folks sit outside a lot more than we do and want patio lighting, there are more and more configurations of LED strip fixtures and approach sensors and remote controllers. We have the typical Tri-Mark entry handle and I hate not having a light to illuminate the key slots, gotta work on something for that so it illuminates the slot but doesn't shine in my eyes and looks like it is part of the door lock.
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Irelands_child
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I've replaced the scare bulbs with LEDs from Super Bright LEDS ( https://www.superbrightleds.com/cat/rv-led-lights/?view=standard ). They probably aren't the cheapest but what they do give you is a list of bulbs with a description of the lumens, color temperature, direction of beam angle and quantity of actual LED bulbs in the array. I ended up with 360 lumens with a clear 6200K color. These have a bit too blue light for me, but they will stay. Gotta say that if these were meant to 'scare' someone, they will. The tail/brake light bulbs have been converted as well and are bright vs the poor light output originally supplied with the 2057's

A note about buying LEDs - you need to purchase the same color LED as the lens - and many porch lights are amber while tail/brake lights are red - and need the proper color for proper light transmittal.

SCVJeff
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I mentioned Greg being in Q after looking at your location (reasonably close). As mentioned, Greg will be out there with all his products I'm sure.
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Njmurvin
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SCVJeff wrote:
It's not the fixture it's the LED you install in it. The best and brightest LED I've seen for this service is the Starlights Revolution line. Install one of these with an Amber lens and you will have no more complaints.

As much as I like my Starlights fixture, I would recommend you look at the RV LED Lites fixtures. Greg Wilson started Starlites many years ago and designed all their fixtures and most of the purpose built LEDs like the Revolution. He sold the company a few years ago and started RV LED Lites and has continued on with a whole new line of products including improved external fixtures. I'm sure he'll be in Quartzsite again this year if you want to go listen to him talk about his products. Greg is a design engineer not just a resale vendor. This is HIS stuff..

Jeff,

Thanks for the tip about RV LED Lites. He has what looks like the perfect solution. It's a porch light with dual amber/white operation (controlled somehow by the wall switch) with a REALLY bright 520 lumen white light when needed and a 220 lumen amber light for bugs. I think I'm going to order one of these. I'll report back to everyone how it works.
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Njmurvin
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Thanks,everyone. I'm surprised that I can't find a fixture with 2 bulbs. But, in all, some great suggestions!
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2011 Arctic Fox 27.5L

SCVJeff
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It's not the fixture it's the LED you install in it. The best and brightest LED I've seen for this service is the Starlights Revolution line. Install one of these with an Amber lens and you will have no more complaints.

As much as I like my Starlights fixture, I would recommend you look at the RV LED Lites fixtures. Greg Wilson started Starlites many years ago and designed all their fixtures and most of the purpose built LEDs like the Revolution. He sold the company a few years ago and started RV LED Lites and has continued on with a whole new line of products including improved external fixtures. I'm sure he'll be in Quartzsite again this year if you want to go listen to him talk about his products. Greg is a design engineer not just a resale vendor. This is HIS stuff..
Jeff - WA6EQU
'06 Itasca Meridian 34H, CAT C7/350

RoyB
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I too have the STARLIGHT SL-1000 LED light with the built in motion detector... Kinda neat to come ON when engaged and light up the patio area before you get there... Also great to turn ON after you go to bed alerting you someone or something has crossed the patio area in the dark...



Comes in WHITE or BLACK housing... AMAZON has it listed this date for $45...

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Dave_H_M
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A stab in the dark. i got one of those type leds that have a connector that fits in the 12 volt socket and a board with the leds on it. Perfect brighter, whiter porch light with no heat behind the lens. Went with a clear lens also. Stuck the board in there with s glob of caulk.

Johno02
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Only problem with higher wattage and brighter bulbs is the heat they produce. I anve see a number of plastic light fixtures that were partially melted by excessive heat from the bulb. I also recommend a LED bulb that will fit, with the most LED that you can get.
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RAS43
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Johno02 wrote:
I installed one of these seeral years ago. Very bright, easy replacement, works very well.

Star Lights motion sensor porch light


I also have this light and like it a lot.
However, if the OP just wants a brighter bulb there is a variety of LED's available from many sources cheaper then C.W. The usual turn signal bulb is a #1141 or a brighter #1156. To match the 1156 brightness I suggest a bulb with at least 27 LEDs minimum in a bright white, not warm white. There are bulbs with 50 LEDs that should be really bright without the fear of melting the lender as LEDs are much cooler in operation. Check out eBay or Amazon.

GaryGus
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Check out the Hawk fixture. Really bright, but not big and ugly.
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Dick_B
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It's not the wattage it's the Lumens! You might want to look at Camping World to try to find a bulb that fits the fixture and that has the highest lumen rating.
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Johno02
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I installed one of these seeral years ago. Very bright, easy replacement, works very well.

Star Lights motion sensor porch light
Noel and Betty Johnson (and Harry)

2005 GulfStream Ultra Supreme, 1 Old grouch, 1 wonderful wife, and two silly poodles.