โMay-07-2016 08:06 AM
โMay-10-2016 06:14 PM
janegowest wrote:Dandy Dan wrote:janegowest wrote:
Yes, I have had the brochure printed out. The salesman read the yellow sticker inside the coach and that is what was printed on there. It has a generator already installed, 2 A/Cs, etc. Even the brochure stated 1,749 is pretty low. The 2010 allows 2,749 CCC, so something went whacko in 2009, it appears.
With the numbers being equal except the first, How about considering it a typo?
I believe that the CA law requirement is what caused them to alter the numbers to underrate the GVWR, and thus the CCC to match...intentional, rather than a typo.
BTW...does law enforcement stop 5ers on the road to check their GVWR to see if they have exceeded the yellow sticker limits?
โMay-10-2016 05:14 PM
janegowest wrote:We have had one guest whose Carrilite was totaled with a bent frame. Now, Carrilites are heavier than a Cameo, and built on the same frame. They were fully loaded with water and supplies for a dry camp stay. A rough frost heave was too much. We chose to ensure it wouldnt happen to us so thats why we upgraded axles and strengthened the frame. With the second trailer, we are adding a lot of torque to the frame.
I am going by Travelnutz calculations. What he said makes a lot of sense. Surely, Carriage would not have put out a product that could not handle the rigors of fulltiming, since they were specifically geared for that purpose. Otherwise, there would have been a lot of reports about the unit's frames cracking, etc.
โMay-10-2016 05:09 PM
Busdriver
2019 2500 Chevy Duramax , - 2017 Grand Design 303 RLSโMay-10-2016 05:03 PM
janegowest wrote:
I am going by Travelnutz calculations. What he said makes a lot of sense. Surely, Carriage would not have put out a product that could not handle the rigors of fulltiming, since they were specifically geared for that purpose. Otherwise, there would have been a lot of reports about the unit's frames cracking, etc.
โMay-10-2016 04:30 PM
โMay-10-2016 01:11 PM
janegowest wrote:SabreCanuck wrote:janegowest wrote:
Thank you, Travelnutz, those figures are pretty obvious, and everything adds up, as the brochure gives the correct GVWR. I always thought that this is how you come up with the CCC...GVWR-UVW.
That is exactly how you come up with CCC. If the GVW of your trailer is 15000# and the UVW is 14049 then the CCC of the trailer is 951#. Simple. And probably printed on the yellow sticker of the trailer itself.
Yes..logistically, yes. But, in this case, they manipulated the numbers...particularly the GVWR to stay under 15K in order to meet CA requirements. Did you read that thread that I had posted a page back? That should help explain this insanity!
โMay-10-2016 01:00 PM
janegowest wrote:
Then how do they determine an overweight vehicle? Or do they ever stop anyone?
โMay-10-2016 12:54 PM
SabreCanuck wrote:janegowest wrote:
Thank you, Travelnutz, those figures are pretty obvious, and everything adds up, as the brochure gives the correct GVWR. I always thought that this is how you come up with the CCC...GVWR-UVW.
That is exactly how you come up with CCC. If the GVW of your trailer is 15000# and the UVW is 14049 then the CCC of the trailer is 951#. Simple. And probably printed on the yellow sticker of the trailer itself.
โMay-10-2016 12:48 PM
janegowest wrote:
Thank you, Travelnutz, those figures are pretty obvious, and everything adds up, as the brochure gives the correct GVWR. I always thought that this is how you come up with the CCC...GVWR-UVW.
โMay-10-2016 12:39 PM
โMay-10-2016 12:16 PM
โMay-10-2016 12:06 PM
Dandy Dan wrote:janegowest wrote:
Yes, I have had the brochure printed out. The salesman read the yellow sticker inside the coach and that is what was printed on there. It has a generator already installed, 2 A/Cs, etc. Even the brochure stated 1,749 is pretty low. The 2010 allows 2,749 CCC, so something went whacko in 2009, it appears.
With the numbers being equal except the first, How about considering it a typo?
โMay-10-2016 11:56 AM
janegowest wrote:
Yes, I have had the brochure printed out. The salesman read the yellow sticker inside the coach and that is what was printed on there. It has a generator already installed, 2 A/Cs, etc. Even the brochure stated 1,749 is pretty low. The 2010 allows 2,749 CCC, so something went whacko in 2009, it appears.
โMay-10-2016 11:32 AM
Allworth wrote:
Jane,
Look back at some of your (many) questions...
Can you change tank sizes?
Can you change CCC?
Can you change kitchen layout?
I know you are trying to figure all of this out, but I really think you should worry less about changing things and look harder for a unit that you can accept as it is.
Compromises are necessary, but the right unit for you is out there somewhere.
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