โAug-19-2015 08:04 AM
โAug-30-2015 07:25 AM
sdetweil wrote:
thanks.. I did not see anything about covering the ports (there are actually 3, front, side and rear.) but I had thought about it.
wouldn't the lift hook ports (long skinny slot to the left in your pic) also need covering? as they are also in the exhaust section of the airflow.
I think I can cover them from below.
โAug-30-2015 04:12 AM
Mile High wrote:
Just a couple of notes on your install -
The notches at the bottom of your base should be covered in aluminum tape (there is another on the right side out of view).
Those are for optional exhaust pipe routing, and when not used they allow heat from the air circulation normally exhausted out the bottom to come out through those open ports. It actually melted my cabinet door on our last rig one hot day because I neglected cover those when I installed the gen. The outside of the cabinet door bowed out and I had to replace the door.
Covering of the ports should be indicated in the install manual.
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โAug-29-2015 01:24 PM
Mile High wrote:sdetweil wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:
Something to consider. We opted for the 240V dryer and assumed that the Cummins/Onan 6500 LP Gen would run the dryer. It was brought to my attention by a member (Chris Bryant?) that the only way the gen would work if it were the same gen but in the commercial version. DRV would NOT let Cummins/Onan install the Commercial version even tho C/O said it would work fine and they would do it DRV said they had not gone thru all the testing to approve it.
I was not happy! So C/O did the gen prep and RollingRetreats did the gen install.
The only thing that will not run is the dishwasher, it has something to do with needing "clean power".
yeh, there are 120v only versions (like mine, commercial, 7kw gas converted to LP), and there are 120/240 versions. I'm surprised at the DW issue tho.. C/O has the best gens for mobile applications (ambulance, rv, ...)
Just a couple of notes on your install -
The notches at the bottom of your base should be covered in aluminum tape (there is another on the right side out of view).
Those are for optional exhaust pipe routing, and when not used they allow heat from the air circulation normally exhausted out the bottom to come out through those open ports. It actually melted my cabinet door on our last rig one hot day because I neglected cover those when I installed the gen. The outside of the cabinet door bowed out and I had to replace the door.
Covering of the ports should be indicated in the install manual.
The dishwasher issue is more of a ground issue. My Fisher-Paykel dishwasher runs just fine on generator, and I run it through the short cycle on generator all the time to winterize it. However, several in our group have had trouble with the factory installed generators. Between Onan and Fisher-Paykel they have both agreed there are no reasons why the dishwasher should send an error code, as the generator is typically cleaner power than the pedestal. In the end, it had something to do with the grounding method the RV factory was using between the transfer switch and the panel. I don't know the fix, but if I find it I'll post it.
โAug-29-2015 01:22 PM
Mile High wrote:laknox wrote:Mile High wrote:laknox wrote:
Another thing to consider, is that the Onans are all straight generators, meaning that they run at idle with no load, or they run wide open with even the smallest load.
Lyle
Did Onan change something? Mine runs at a fixed throttle whether under load or not.
Last Onan I saw running would idle down if there was zero load, but that's been a while ago. Things might have changed. I =still= can't figure out why nobody's made an Onan-style gen-pack with an inverter...
Lyle
Must have been decades ago, as mine is a 2003 and it's fixed throttle and they have been ever since.
โAug-29-2015 10:12 AM
sdetweil wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:
Something to consider. We opted for the 240V dryer and assumed that the Cummins/Onan 6500 LP Gen would run the dryer. It was brought to my attention by a member (Chris Bryant?) that the only way the gen would work if it were the same gen but in the commercial version. DRV would NOT let Cummins/Onan install the Commercial version even tho C/O said it would work fine and they would do it DRV said they had not gone thru all the testing to approve it.
I was not happy! So C/O did the gen prep and RollingRetreats did the gen install.
The only thing that will not run is the dishwasher, it has something to do with needing "clean power".
yeh, there are 120v only versions (like mine, commercial, 7kw gas converted to LP), and there are 120/240 versions. I'm surprised at the DW issue tho.. C/O has the best gens for mobile applications (ambulance, rv, ...)
โAug-29-2015 09:41 AM
laknox wrote:Mile High wrote:laknox wrote:
Another thing to consider, is that the Onans are all straight generators, meaning that they run at idle with no load, or they run wide open with even the smallest load.
Lyle
Did Onan change something? Mine runs at a fixed throttle whether under load or not.
Last Onan I saw running would idle down if there was zero load, but that's been a while ago. Things might have changed. I =still= can't figure out why nobody's made an Onan-style gen-pack with an inverter...
Lyle
โAug-23-2015 01:12 PM
sdetweil wrote:laknox wrote:
Last Onan I saw running would idle down if there was zero load, but that's been a while ago. Things might have changed. I =still= can't figure out why nobody's made an Onan-style gen-pack with an inverter...
Lyle
Onan makes at least one Diesel gen with Inverter.
Model# 6HDKAH-1044, 120v only
โAug-23-2015 12:40 PM
laknox wrote:
Last Onan I saw running would idle down if there was zero load, but that's been a while ago. Things might have changed. I =still= can't figure out why nobody's made an Onan-style gen-pack with an inverter...
Lyle
โAug-23-2015 10:58 AM
laknox wrote:sdetweil wrote:ford-willy wrote:
Most inboard generators in 5th wheels run on propane. Very impractical and a pain to keep up on filling your propane bottles constantly. I believe only toy haulers come with gasoline operated gens. Like others I just carry two 2000 Super quiet Hondas. One must be a "companion" 2000 Honda. If your not needing much power just run one. If you need to run an air conditioner or use the microwave run both by using a simple parallel wire connector kit and you have a 4000 watt output.
I hear yah. I converted my Onan to Propane, as I didn't want to carry gas. We pulled into Little Rock, two weeks ago at 96degrees (feels like 102), after towing all day with outside temps over 105. I started the gen and the A/C as we waited to register, pull to our site and setup. turned it off after I connected shore power, and the ATS switched back.
Also started it at a rest stop to heat some stuff in the microwave for lunch.
can't do that very easily with a portable.
Sure you can. Most of the 3000 and up portables have built in remote start, and the last couple years, they've been wireless.
Lyle
โAug-23-2015 09:56 AM
sdetweil wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:
Something to consider. We opted for the 240V dryer and assumed that the Cummins/Onan 6500 LP Gen would run the dryer. It was brought to my attention by a member (Chris Bryant?) that the only way the gen would work if it were the same gen but in the commercial version. DRV would NOT let Cummins/Onan install the Commercial version even tho C/O said it would work fine and they would do it DRV said they had not gone thru all the testing to approve it.
I was not happy! So C/O did the gen prep and RollingRetreats did the gen install.
The only thing that will not run is the dishwasher, it has something to do with needing "clean power".
yeh, there are 120v only versions (like mine, commercial, 7kw gas converted to LP), and there are 120/240 versions. I'm surprised at the DW issue tho.. C/O has the best gens for mobile applications (ambulance, rv, ...)
โAug-23-2015 09:55 AM
sdetweil wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:
Something to consider. We opted for the 240V dryer and assumed that the Cummins/Onan 6500 LP Gen would run the dryer. It was brought to my attention by a member (Chris Bryant?) that the only way the gen would work if it were the same gen but in the commercial version. DRV would NOT let Cummins/Onan install the Commercial version even tho C/O said it would work fine and they would do it DRV said they had not gone thru all the testing to approve it.
I was not happy! So C/O did the gen prep and RollingRetreats did the gen install.
The only thing that will not run is the dishwasher, it has something to do with needing "clean power".
yeh, there are 120v only versions (like mine, commercial, 7kw gas converted to LP), and there are 120/240 versions. I'm surprised at the DW issue tho.. C/O has the best gens for mobile applications (ambulance, rv, ...)
โAug-23-2015 09:52 AM
sdetweil wrote:ford-willy wrote:
Most inboard generators in 5th wheels run on propane. Very impractical and a pain to keep up on filling your propane bottles constantly. I believe only toy haulers come with gasoline operated gens. Like others I just carry two 2000 Super quiet Hondas. One must be a "companion" 2000 Honda. If your not needing much power just run one. If you need to run an air conditioner or use the microwave run both by using a simple parallel wire connector kit and you have a 4000 watt output.
I hear yah. I converted my Onan to Propane, as I didn't want to carry gas. We pulled into Little Rock, two weeks ago at 96degrees (feels like 102), after towing all day with outside temps over 105. I started the gen and the A/C as we waited to register, pull to our site and setup. turned it off after I connected shore power, and the ATS switched back.
Also started it at a rest stop to heat some stuff in the microwave for lunch.
can't do that very easily with a portable.
โAug-23-2015 09:51 AM
Mile High wrote:laknox wrote:
Another thing to consider, is that the Onans are all straight generators, meaning that they run at idle with no load, or they run wide open with even the smallest load.
Lyle
Did Onan change something? Mine runs at a fixed throttle whether under load or not.
โAug-23-2015 09:28 AM
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Something to consider. We opted for the 240V dryer and assumed that the Cummins/Onan 6500 LP Gen would run the dryer. It was brought to my attention by a member (Chris Bryant?) that the only way the gen would work if it were the same gen but in the commercial version. DRV would NOT let Cummins/Onan install the Commercial version even tho C/O said it would work fine and they would do it DRV said they had not gone thru all the testing to approve it.
I was not happy! So C/O did the gen prep and RollingRetreats did the gen install.
The only thing that will not run is the dishwasher, it has something to do with needing "clean power".