Goodyear G614 tires

[wacdmc]

In my reviews of these forums the last few weeks, I've read about a bunch of Goodyear G614 failures but no Sailun S637 failures.

I can't see spending $500 extra to get Goodyear tires with a history of blowouts in order to replace tires on my camper that also have a history of blowouts (Power King Tow Max).

Were the Goodyear failures on older models and are they improved now?

[JEBar]

MrVan wrote:

JEBar wrote:

MrVan wrote:
That is absolutely amazing. Three failures and still using the same tire size, model and brand? Why not buy a tire that doesn't fail?

OK, give me the name of a brand that is guaranteed to never fail .... wait a moment I'll make it a bit easier, give me the name of a brand that is guaranteed not to fail for 5 years of use with little, if any, regard for miles of use and I'll give it serious consideration .... my bet is you can't do so, nor can anyone else because that tire doesn't exist .... until it does, I'll stick with the only one that will pay for the damage .... as others have noted, the failures we experienced were years ago, as best I can remember the last one was back in '06 or '07

Jim

I'm not aware of any tire manufacturer that will guarantee a tire not to fail but there have been many RV.net members who have switched tires types/brands after failures and have not had any more failures. Seems to me that would indicate something that would cause any RV.net member to give serious consideration to changing tire brands/type after experiencing 3 tire failures which also caused major RV damage. After owning a 5th wheel for 6 years, if and when we ever purchase another, the consideration of the warranty provided by the manufacturer will be a distant second to the manufacturer who requires the least amount of warranty repairs. Warranty repairs are not free and in fact are a real hassle.

prior to switching to G614's on our former camper we had 5 failures of Goodyear Marathons and 6 failures of OEM Kenda Loadstar tires in less than a year on our current camper .... since '02 on our current and former camper, we have purchased 5 sets of G614's .... we average over 10,000 miles towed per year with a couple of years including single trips of over 10,000 miles .... in short for over 11 years we have towed well over 100,000 miles .... we have had 3 G614 tire failures (all of which took place from late '06 through mid '08 )for which Goodyear has paid 100% of the damages and replaced the tires ... if/when our towing covers fewer miles I may well look at some other tires but as things stand now, I'd be hard pressed to go with a tire that may do well .... hopefully others who do use them will report back so that more will be known about their performance

Jim

[NC_Hauler]

I'm as patriotic and American as they come....I served in the military, fought in a war for my country, tears come to my eyes when I hear the Star Spangled Banner sung the way it should be, would fight to the death for my country.....BUT, when it comes to RV TIRES...IF something comes along BETTER than the G614's, AND they are a quality tire and reputable THEN, I would look at, price and possibly buy. I can only say that about the ONE tire, and ONLY ONE tire that just happens to be manufactured in China and that is the Sailun tire..Those who aren't in manufacturing and don't understand Quality control processes, manufacturing training processes and records to back the training, 5S, Lean Manufacturing, SixSigma training/qualification, may not understand just how controlled and quality oriented this makes the manufacturing process. I can understand one's hesitation to purchase a China manufactured tire. one of their biggest antagonist....still am, BUT, this Sailun tire is being manufactured to different standards, and they are high standards indeed..I will CONSIDER THEM

I may still purchase the G614 tire....but when I get ready to replace my tires, I will look at how the Sailun tire has performed and price it...It doesn't make me un-American...I'm as American as can be and more so than a lot that profess to be....hey, Cub Scouts, Eagle Scout, USAF Viet Nam Vet, (combat ribbon to prove me), so don't doubt or question my "allegiance to America....I'd die for her...BUT, we're talking 5th wheel tires here....IF the Sailun tire proves out, I very well may buy them....and I'll still be as red-white and blue and pro-American as they come.....

It's a TIRE, and one that will very well may make, as Chris state, re-think THEIR pricing on their G rated tire..hope it does.....:)

[Me_Again]

There is a Geostar also.
http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/25022148.cfm

[sk734]

fj12ryder wrote:

ggmac wrote:
Hello

Are there any 16" LT tires out there besides the Goodyear 616 that has the
capacity to use on 7000lb axles?

Yes there are.

Read my post on page # 5. Sailon tires. My rig has 7K axles

[fj12ryder]

ggmac wrote:
Hello

Are there any 16" LT tires out there besides the Goodyear 616 that has the
capacity to use on 7000lb axles?

Yes there are.

[ggmac]

Hello

Are there any 16" LT tires out there besides the Goodyear 616 that has the
capacity to use on 7000lb axles?

[Lantley]

thecampingman wrote:
Which Sailuns tire are you talking about?

I looked at the website and the S637 doesn't come in LT235/85R16G size. The smallest rim for this tire is 17.5".

In fact the only G rated 16" tire I found was a lugged dump truck tire with a max speed rating of 70mph.

Could someone post a link to the tire in discussion?

16" S637 Sailun

[thecampingman]

Which Sailuns tire are you talking about?

I looked at the website and the S637 doesn't come in LT235/85R16G size. The smallest rim for this tire is 17.5".

In fact the only G rated 16" tire I found was a lugged dump truck tire with a max speed rating of 70mph.

Could someone post a link to the tire in discussion?

[reddwar]

reddwar wrote:
Well I have never heard of the Sailin 637 tire. Our 04 HH came with GY G614 the sorriest tires I ever had what did not blow up only lasted 40,000 miles. So I started looking around for a different tire the GY G614 was the only G rated tire out there so after first blow up got a new one. Had another blow out but it took out the valve stem on other tire so I needed two tires. Called GS road service first guy wanted to give me E tires I said no. GS called #2 he would not get me a G614 either but he said on the logging were using the hankook F19 750r16 a 14ply same as G tire & they had good luck with them - it was take them or set there. I liked them & ended up put F19 on the other side. When I traded off our rig had 50,000 miles on the first two tires & they still looked like new great tires. Next time you are in a big truck stop look around at all the hankook tires on big rigs. I am replacing the tires on my 07 3500 Mega cab drw rwd Dodge. I could only find two tires with a 70,000 mile rating michelin & hankook in a LT235/80R17. With hankook tires I can save $400. Like I said earlier Look at all the hankook tires on big rigs if they did not make good tires they would not run them. So if you need to replace your GY G614 you may want to look at the hankook F19 750r16. Oh yes always have them balance all tires even on your rig. Our new rig has 17.5's

red

[reddwar]

Well I have never heard of the Sailin 637 tire. Our 04 HH came with GY G614 the sorriest tires I ever had what did not blow up only lasted 40,000 miles. So I started looking around for a different tire the GY G614 was the only G rated tire out there so after first blow up got a new one. Had another blow out but it took out the valve stem on other tire so I needed two tires. Called GS road service first guy wanted to give me E tires I said no. GS called #2 he would not get me a G614 either but he said on the logging were using the hankook F19 750r16 a 14ply same as G tire & they had good luck with them - it was take them or set there. I liked them & ended up put F19 on the other side. When I traded off our rig had 50,000 miles on the first two tires & they still looked like new great tires. Next time you are in a big truck stop look around at all the hankook tires on big rigs. I am replacing the tires on my 07 3500 Mega cab drw rwd Dodge. I could only find two tires with a 70,000 mile rating michelin & hankook in a LT235/80R17. With hankook tires I can save $400. Like I said earlier Look at all the hankook tires on big rigs if they did not make good tires they would not run them. So if you need to replace your GY G614 you may want to look at the hankook F19 750r16. Oh yes always have them balance all tires even on your rig.

red

[MrVan]

JEBar wrote:

MrVan wrote:
That is absolutely amazing. Three failures and still using the same tire size, model and brand? Why not buy a tire that doesn't fail?

OK, give me the name of a brand that is guaranteed to never fail .... wait a moment I'll make it a bit easier, give me the name of a brand that is guaranteed not to fail for 5 years of use with little, if any, regard for miles of use and I'll give it serious consideration .... my bet is you can't do so, nor can anyone else because that tire doesn't exist .... until it does, I'll stick with the only one that will pay for the damage .... as others have noted, the failures we experienced were years ago, as best I can remember the last one was back in '06 or '07

Jim

I'm not aware of any tire manufacturer that will guarantee a tire not to fail but there have been many RV.net members who have switched tires types/brands after failures and have not had any more failures. Seems to me that would indicate something that would cause any RV.net member to give serious consideration to changing tire brands/type after experiencing 3 tire failures which also caused major RV damage. After owning a 5th wheel for 6 years, if and when we ever purchase another, the consideration of the warranty provided by the manufacturer will be a distant second to the manufacturer who requires the least amount of warranty repairs. Warranty repairs are not free and in fact are a real hassle.

[LostinAZ]

JEBar wrote:

MrVan wrote:
That is absolutely amazing. Three failures and still using the same tire size, model and brand? Why not buy a tire that doesn't fail?

OK, give me the name of a brand that is guaranteed to never fail .... wait a moment I'll make it a bit easier, give me the name of a brand that is guaranteed not to fail for 5 years of use with little, if any, regard for miles of use and I'll give it serious consideration .... my bet is you can't do so, nor can anyone else because that tire doesn't exist .... until it does, I'll stick with the only one that will pay for the damage .... as others have noted, the failures we experienced were years ago, as best I can remember the last one was back in '06 or '07


Jim

There are no tires offered guaranteed not to fail, but there are tires available with much lower failure rates than what you have experienced. Staying with the same that has failed repeatedly is amazing and does not make good common sense!

[Me_Again]

Hey we have people here that you bought 22 or 24 tires of the same type and not changed their ways, what is the big deal about 3? Chris

[Lantley]

JEBar wrote:

MrVan wrote:
That is absolutely amazing. Three failures and still using the same tire size, model and brand? Why not buy a tire that doesn't fail?

OK, give me the name of a brand that is guaranteed to never fail .... wait a moment I'll make it a bit easier, give me the name of a brand that is guaranteed not to fail for 5 years of use with little, if any, regard for miles of use and I'll give it serious consideration .... my bet is you can't do so, nor can anyone else because that tire doesn't exist .... until it does, I'll stick with the only one that will pay for the damage .... as others have noted, the failures we experienced were years ago, as best I can remember the last one was back in '06 or '07

Jim

There are no guarantees but 3 failures,3 repairs would be enough for me to do something differently. Otherwise I'd be still running OEM ST's.
Bottom line is there is now an alternative available, if your happy paying $200.00 or so per tire more feel free to stick with GY it's your money.
I'll take the savings and give the cheaper guy a look. So far there have been no blowouts reported on line anywhere vs. the numerous claims filed against Goodyear.
I am not naive enough to think Sailun is building the perfect tire but I have done enough research to understand they are a serious competitor.
For now the the final verdict on Sailun is not out .
Only time will tell if Sailuin's are truly as good as the Goodyears. In the meantime,I'll take the savings and put it in my damage fund if needed. Currently my fund contains $800.00 in savings

[JEBar]

MrVan wrote:
That is absolutely amazing. Three failures and still using the same tire size, model and brand? Why not buy a tire that doesn't fail?

OK, give me the name of a brand that is guaranteed to never fail .... wait a moment I'll make it a bit easier, give me the name of a brand that is guaranteed not to fail for 5 years of use with little, if any, regard for miles of use and I'll give it serious consideration .... my bet is you can't do so, nor can anyone else because that tire doesn't exist .... until it does, I'll stick with the only one that will pay for the damage .... as others have noted, the failures we experienced were years ago, as best I can remember the last one was back in '06 or '07

Jim