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Hitching a fifth wheel - in pictures

ependydad
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Does anyone care to comment on my steps/pictures to hitching a fifth wheel?

Hitching My Fifth Wheel - a pictorial

Other than those that feel that B&W doesn't need a pull test (smile), does anyone have input for things that I could clarify better, are missing, or simply are blatantly wrong?

Cheers.

(Edit to fix typo in post title.)
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bpounds
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Now we will start the quibbling over minor details. You can always count on RV.net for that entertainment.

So I'll join in with - I would not worry about stress on the LG when leaving the feet 1/2" off the ground. You won't be "dropping" the trailer on the gear, even though we commonly call it that. If your pull test fails, your pinbox will ride down the fifthwheel ramp and gently land on the gear. Lots of folks unhitch that way routinely.
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ependydad
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Not sure how I missed this reply...

wandering1 wrote:
I have always done step 8 for the past 20 years which eliminates the need for a pull test.


I tend to agree, but do it as a belt and suspenders perspective. There are reports of people forgetting to latch handles and other brain farts that the pull test is supposed to save you from. From what I've read, a majority of dropped fifth wheels are user/operator error vs. equipment failure. Super unlikely, but I'm just the idiot to need it. I'd rather a newbie get into the habit of doing both until they make a conscience and educated decision one way or the other.

That said, I'm not going to wag my finger or shake my head at anyone who doesn't. Different methods for different folks.
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ependydad
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Deb and Ed M wrote:
I saw the change he made, and glad for it because I too, do that delicate "ballet" of closing the tailgate as the pin nears the hitch. In my case, I AM standing behind the truck as it's moving backwards; I'm not strong enough to raise the tailgate from the side of the truck. I DO trust Ed's driving skills and he moves VERY slowly. Hoping to get a notched tailgate before we leave for FL, just to eliminate that recipe-for-damage.

Ependydad - sure appreciate your tutorials!! Even though we've got a year under our belt as 5er owners - it never hurts to review before a trip!!


Thanks for the kind words. I do agree that it can be safe to between the two for experienced folks and folks who communicate well, but I generally try to target newbies and write to the theory of safest practices. We all know that theory and reality don't always align. 🙂

To be honest, if we had to do the same dance - I'm not sure that my wife would be able to lift it up from the side. I'd probably consider having her back into the hitch and me do the raising/lowering of the tailgate and landing gear. But, I'll admit to being overly safety conscience AND a huge chicken poop when it comes to RVing. Being without experience towing or dealing with heavy moving things like my fifth wheel keeps me on the paranoid side of it. Extra cautious that way, though.


rhagfo wrote:
About the only part i don't full agree with is the pull test. I do mine LG still supporting most of the weight of the 5er, in the event of a high hitch much easier to pull out with less weight on the pin!!!
To those worried about strain on the LG, well wheels fully chocked 5er doesn't move, no strain, I would think 2,000#+ dropping down on the LG would do more damage!.
There is a difference between holding up 2,000#+ and having it dropped an inch or two, the drop is what brought down the World Trade center!
I also do as soon as I have captured the pin, and before locking the handle of the hitch.


I used to keep my landing gear down and did the pull test that way. But I found that the fifth wheel still rocked around a bit with wheel chocks (both between the wheel and cheap plastic chocks) and I didn't like the continual stress on them. With raising them up (I target about 1/2"), the only stress would be the major stress if it drops- but my goal is to never experience that stress with proper hitching procedures. So, it should be awash.

That said, I do understand what you're saying and can't disagree with what you do.


Cummins12V98 wrote:
I think I am regarded by many here as a B&W "Fan Boy" so I better give them a call and get my T Shirt!!!


I'm fairly sure, you're full-fledged cult member. 😄 Good luck on the shirt, let me know what you get and we can wear them together.
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Cummins12V98
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Cummins12V98 wrote:

I think you show a bias to B&W and RAM.


MAYBE! When you've got a good thing, why not flaunt it?! I actually have been in communication in the past with B&W about being a "fan boy". They sent me a t-shirt and goodies so I can be a poster child wherever I am.

I think I am regarded by many here as a B&W "Fan Boy" so I better give them a call and get my T Shirt!!!
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rhagfo
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About the only part i don't full agree with is the pull test. I do mine LG still supporting most of the weight of the 5er, in the event of a high hitch much easier to pull out with less weight on the pin!!!
To those worried about strain on the LG, well wheels fully chocked 5er doesn't move, no strain, I would think 2,000#+ dropping down on the LG would do more damage!.
There is a difference between holding up 2,000#+ and having it dropped an inch or two, the drop is what brought down the World Trade center!
I also do as soon as I have captured the pin, and before locking the handle of the hitch.
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Deb_and_Ed_M
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bpounds wrote:
Pretty good! I would probably add something about the tailgate. Making sure it is down, making sure it can be down without hitting the front of the camper, making sure it is up before departing, that kind of thing.


I saw the change he made, and glad for it because I too, do that delicate "ballet" of closing the tailgate as the pin nears the hitch. In my case, I AM standing behind the truck as it's moving backwards; I'm not strong enough to raise the tailgate from the side of the truck. I DO trust Ed's driving skills and he moves VERY slowly. Hoping to get a notched tailgate before we leave for FL, just to eliminate that recipe-for-damage.

Ependydad - sure appreciate your tutorials!! Even though we've got a year under our belt as 5er owners - it never hurts to review before a trip!!
Ed, Deb, and 2 dogs
Looking for a small Class C!

ependydad
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path1 wrote:
I can recommend...learn to do it right and do it that way everytime. Do not get distracted. There are no short cuts. If you think you have picked up some bad habits or have had some near misses find someone you trust and have them watch you and make some friendly suggestions. It is not a race. Make a check list and follow it. Check ego's at the door. To much at stake for any separation, in yard or on the road.


Agreed. Thanks for the comments.

kennethwooster wrote:
I thought you did an excellent job. I also have the B&W, and I also connect my emergency brake cable to the tie down on RH rear of truck bed. I've had mine get to short and pull out, and apply the brakes. Yes I was in a tight turn. Been looking for away to connect to the base of the hitch. I have the puck B&W hitch. Thanks for the ideas.


If it were me, I'd be tempted to have someone drill a hole into one of the legs and connect it there. Otherwise, I'd think about a coiled emergency breakaway cable. I haven't had any issues and we commonly use the truck bed for other stuff.

jerem0621 wrote:
Good write up. If those are affiliate links to the amazon site you may want to add a disclosure per FTC disclosure rules.


Jeremiah, thanks for the reminder. I've gone ahead and added it to my "Terms of Use" page and changed the wording in the footer to refer to affiliate links (unfortunately, I'm pretty limited on how much I can put down there due to Blogger's limitations. I know that this is an Amazon Program requirement, but I didn't know it was a FTC rule. Do you happen to have a link?

Cummins12V98 wrote:
I think you show a bias to B&W and RAM.;)


MAYBE! When you've got a good thing, why not flaunt it?! I actually have been in communication in the past with B&W about being a "fan boy". They sent me a t-shirt and goodies so I can be a poster child wherever I am.

C-Bears wrote:
Good narrative. Very methodical and safe methods. The key is to do it the same every time and DO NOT LET ANYONE DISTRACT YOU!


Thanks for the kind words. And, the "no distractions" is very true. I think I'm going to add that to my preamble at the top.
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C-Bears
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Good narrative. Very methodical and safe methods. The key is to do it the same every time and DO NOT LET ANYONE DISTRACT YOU!
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Cummins12V98
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I think you show a bias to B&W and RAM.;)
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jerem0621
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Good write up. If those are affiliate links to the amazon site you may want to add a disclosure per FTC disclosure rules.

Thanks!

Jeremiah
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kennethwooster
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I thought you did an excellent job. I also have the B&W, and I also connect my emergency brake cable to the tie down on RH rear of truck bed. I've had mine get to short and pull out, and apply the brakes. Yes I was in a tight turn. Been looking for away to connect to the base of the hitch. I have the puck B&W hitch. Thanks for the ideas.
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wandering1
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I have always done step 8 for the past 20 years which eliminates the need for a pull test.
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path1
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Our Corp had big time problem with certain type "bracket pin" coming not only out on the road but usually missing when driver returned to yard. Still have these directions benched marked when we were trying to work thuru the problem. Might help you, might not?

http://ww1.safholland.us/quicklit/XL-FW460_en-US.pdf

I can recommend...learn to do it right and do it that way everytime. Do not get distracted. There are no short cuts. If you think you have picked up some bad habits or have had some near misses find someone you trust and have them watch you and make some friendly suggestions. It is not a race. Make a check list and follow it. Check ego's at the door. To much at stake for any separation, in yard or on the road.
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Old-Biscuit
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Walk around..........

Seen lots of items that would have been caught with a simple walk around.

And have seen lot of folks do walk arounds and not really 'look' so they end up driving off with stabilizers still down, awnings not fully retracted/latched, TV Antennas!!!!! steps still out, compartment doors flapping etc. etc.

As for the tailgate.......didn't think about it cause I have a 'V' gate
but have seen the results of tailgate not being opened and/or being down and not enough clearance due to shot pin box
Is it time for your medication or mine?


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ependydad
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bpounds wrote:
Pretty good! I would probably add something about the tailgate. Making sure it is down, making sure it can be down without hitting the front of the camper, making sure it is up before departing, that kind of thing.


Oh man, great recommendation! I've added that. I completely forgot about it (I just do it automatically)!
2017 Spartan 1245 by Prime Time
2018 Ram 3500 Crew Cab DRW w/ 4.10 gears and 8' bed
FW Hitch: TrailerSaver TS3
Learn to RV- learn about RVing - Towing Planner Calculators - Family Fulltiming FB page