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[Retiredmarine]

Desperately seeking feedback/advice. Shopping around for a 5er. Tow vehicle is a 2014 F250 Crew Cab Platinum Super Duty. All stock and no air bags yet. The 5er I'm thinking of is a 2015 Evergreen Bayhill. Dry weight is 12,734 and Dry hitch weight is 2,390. GVWR is 16,070. Hitch weight is 2390. Anyone know max I can put over rear axle for this truck? Is this too much weight to be pulling? Assuming I'll need at least an 18K 5er hitch? Any recommendation on what type of hitch.

[Cummins12V98]

kennethwooster wrote:
I had a 2011 F250, with the 6.7. It would pull anything but found that my 31' Cameo was too heavy. I did install airbags, and made it fine, but always knew I was overweight. I do recommend trying to go with a smaller trailer. We want to a 2014 F350 DRW. Really made for a better pull. These trailers get heavy before we know it.

Good job!

[kennethwooster]

I had a 2011 F250, with the 6.7. It would pull anything but found that my 31' Cameo was too heavy. I did install airbags, and made it fine, but always knew I was overweight. I do recommend trying to go with a smaller trailer. We want to a 2014 F350 DRW. Really made for a better pull. These trailers get heavy before we know it.

[Cummins12V98]

Be like everyone else that has a 250/2500 and wants a RV that is way too much for their truck, bag it and install 19.5's. You will be good to go! But for the cost a Dually would have been more appropriate and cost less.

[spud1957]

The Platinum is a pretty well optioned truck so if it's a diesel, you won't have much more than 2000lbs payload. Please look at your Tire and Load Capacity Label to determine your trucks capacity!!! You will be over your GVWR. Probably not exceed your RAWR of 6200lbs. Lets remind everyone that the F250 is an F350 with an F250 label.

If you are like a large number of 3/4 diesel owners who don't mind exceeded the "posted" GVWR, go for it. If not? Either buy an F350 or look at a lighter trailer.



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[Valkyriebush]

Welcome to the forum, Semper fi.

[MFL]

If you have the factory FW prep on your truck, the best hitch would be the B&W, for OEM Ford. It is a great hitch, good price, and plenty strong. It is also light weight!

Jerry

[MFL]

OP already owns the 14 250 in the heavy/fancy version, so doubt if he would be looking to trade up to the 350, even though he should.

The 250s have a RAWR of 6200, so that size trailer is too much IMO.

This only leaves several choices. Try to up the 250, to meet 350 requirements, or look for a smaller/lighter trailer.

If you have the diesel, you will be way over GVWR, but tire rating, and RAWR, are most important.

You will have to decide, what choice you want to make. Many out there are carrying way over ratings, just not what I'd do.

Good luck,
Jerry

[NC_Hauler]

ford truck guy wrote:
Almost certainly he will be over on the numbers... Those numbers resemble my initial numbers before loading... loaded for a 3 week trip...truck.. trailer.. fuel.. passengers.. I am just shy of the total RAWR.. That's with a "15" 1 ton SRW..

ouch...again, I don't know RAWR rating of his truck, but if you have a 15' 1 ton SRW truck, then OP may need to look at a lighter 5er, based on your information

[ford_truck_guy]

Almost certainly he will be over on the numbers... Those numbers resemble my initial numbers before loading... loaded for a 3 week trip...truck.. trailer.. fuel.. passengers.. I am just shy of the total RAWR.. That's with a "15" 1 ton SRW..

[NC_Hauler]

Me Again wrote:
donn0128 is right. With around 3200 pounds of loaded pin weight you have to look at the RGAWR of the truck very carefully and you will be over the trucks GVWR most likely.

You need to provide the trucks scaled weight ready to tow, GVWR and RGAWR! Chris

Chris, believe Donn may be right, (cept I believe a 1ton SRW would suffice)...as I stated, OP needs to get truck weighed then look at what his rear axle weight rating is...pretty sure he'll be over his trucks GVWR, but we won't know about his rear axle weight....Also told him to use 5er's GVW instead of "empty or dry" weights.

[Me_Again]

donn0128 is right. With around 3200 pounds of loaded pin weight you have to look at the RGAWR of the truck very carefully and you will be over the trucks GVWR most likely.

You need to provide the trucks scaled weight ready to tow, GVWR and RGAWR! Chris

[NC_Hauler]

Retiredmarine wrote:
Desperately seeking feedback/advice. Shopping around for a 5er. Tow vehicle is a 2014 F250 Crew Cab Platinum Super Duty. All stock and no air bags yet. The 5er I'm thinking of is a 2015 Evergreen Bayhill. Dry weight is 12,734 and Dry hitch weight is 2,390. GVWR is 16,070. Hitch weight is 2390. Anyone know max I can put over rear axle for this truck? Is this too much weight to be pulling? Assuming I'll need at least an 18K 5er hitch? Any recommendation on what type of hitch.

Welcome to the forum...When it comes to shopping for a 5er your truck can tow, it would be most beneficial if you skipped the "dry" or "empty" weights, (including pin weight) and use the actual GVW of the unit for "worse case" scenario...The unit you're looking at has a GVW of 16,070#...If you load 2,000#, you would be close to 15,000# which would give you a more realistic "ball park" pin weight of 3,000#, possibly...(use 20% of 5er's GVW to get a "ballpark" idea of what your pin weight might be...amount of weight you'll put in bed of your truck.

I'm not familiar with the GVW, RAWR or GCWR of a 2014 F250. You may not need air bags, (would only need if truck doesn't set level).

I would look on door jamb and see what your rear axle weight rating is...load the truck up, ready to tow with family, pets, full tank of DEF and full tank of fuel, if no 5er hitch at this time, after weighing truck at a CAT scale, add 200# to the drive axle weight.....

From there, you can figure out how much pin weight you can put in the bed of your truck...for example, if your truck, (loaded, ready to hook up and go), weighs in at 3200# ..don't forget to add an additional 200# to the drive axle weight for the hitch, and the RAWR of your truck is, again, just an example...7200# subtract 3400# from that and it'll give you an idea of how much "pin weight" you can put in the bed of your truck.

I know that 5er's of that weight have been towed with 3/4 ton trucks....I'd just do the weights, use some simple math and you'll get an answer as soon as you weigh your truck

What is rear axle weight rating, GVW and GCWR of your truck? (GVW less important, a lot don't use it...RAWR is far more important)....

hard to answer your question until we know some of your trucks specs..A lot of people tow heavy with 3/4 ton trucks, but one needs to do the weights and math...again, use the actual GVW of the 5er instead of "empty" or "dry" weight and take 20% of that to get a BETTER idea of how much pin weight you might put in the bed of your truck

Oh, noticed you're a retired Marine..Thanks for your service Marine....Semper Fi!!

[donn0128]

Too much trailer for the truck. With any of the 2500 series type trucks you need to limit yourself to a fiver with around 12,000 GVWR to stay within factory limits. To comfortably tow that fiver you would really want a dually.