โJul-23-2013 12:55 PM
โJul-24-2013 10:02 AM
lincster wrote:stsmark wrote:
To the OP, you actually have a very capable truck, it will pull up to a 36' 2 axle 5ver nicely. Yes the paper ratings don't jive but with good tires ( Load E with 3750 wt Cap ) , well maintained running gear and a level head behind the wheel you should have some fun trips.
A larger hauler I definitely recommend more truck.
Have fun
I wouldn't want a 2 axle 36' toy hauler..... Not with the weights I put inside of mine.
โJul-24-2013 09:26 AM
stsmark wrote:
To the OP, you actually have a very capable truck, it will pull up to a 36' 2 axle 5ver nicely. Yes the paper ratings don't jive but with good tires ( Load E with 3750 wt Cap ) , well maintained running gear and a level head behind the wheel you should have some fun trips.
A larger hauler I definitely recommend more truck.
Have fun
โJul-24-2013 09:23 AM
broccoli2 wrote:lincster wrote:broccoli2 wrote:
Well,first, unless you have a DRW or a gas motor, you don't have 4.30 gears. Unless you did a swap out. Ford's SRW trucks for that year all came with 3.73 gears.
Secondly, you don't have the 26k GCWR unless you have the dually with the tow boss package. The DRW with 4.30 gears was the only truck you could get that year with the 26,000 GCWR.
If you have the diesel, your truck weighs close to 8000lbs, with full fuel and no people in it. I know, I owned a 2006 DRW and my truck was 8200lbs with full fuel, no people and my 5th wheel hitch.
So, in short, if you go by the weight ratings, that Warrior you are looking at is going to put you over the weight ratings of your truck BIG TIME!!!!
When I had my sand rail and a full load hooked up for Thanksgiving, I was at 25,980lbs. I put my rig on a CAT scale.
My trailer is not as heavy as the one you are looking at.
Yep, thats what I was looking for. Thanks for confirming all that... Now I need to find a new truck or smaller rig...
I have been trying to search for a bigger truck, Can someone post up a list of names of the trucks that can tow this thing, I'm having a hard time searching, I have a few i.e.,
1) f550
2) topkick /kodiak
โJul-24-2013 08:59 AM
Bedlam wrote:
Look at some of the Northwood Mfg Desert Fox toy hauler travel trailers. They are built and insulated well. We had a Weekend Warrior prior to our truck camper. It had great capacities but the insulation was poor for colder climates. Don't be dissuaded in your purchase - Just turn your attention to vehicles that the truck will tow comfortably so you enjoy your time camping instead of dreading the drive.
โJul-24-2013 08:23 AM
โJul-24-2013 08:12 AM
lincster wrote:broccoli2 wrote:
Well,first, unless you have a DRW or a gas motor, you don't have 4.30 gears. Unless you did a swap out. Ford's SRW trucks for that year all came with 3.73 gears.
Secondly, you don't have the 26k GCWR unless you have the dually with the tow boss package. The DRW with 4.30 gears was the only truck you could get that year with the 26,000 GCWR.
If you have the diesel, your truck weighs close to 8000lbs, with full fuel and no people in it. I know, I owned a 2006 DRW and my truck was 8200lbs with full fuel, no people and my 5th wheel hitch.
So, in short, if you go by the weight ratings, that Warrior you are looking at is going to put you over the weight ratings of your truck BIG TIME!!!!
When I had my sand rail and a full load hooked up for Thanksgiving, I was at 25,980lbs. I put my rig on a CAT scale.
My trailer is not as heavy as the one you are looking at.
โJul-24-2013 08:11 AM
broccoli2 wrote:miboje wrote:lincster wrote:
Guess who wears the pants in the family. LOL
Hate to tell you, but if you go by tow ratings alone, and you want to stick within those tow ratings, you don't have the right truck for a big 5th wheel toyhauler.
You won't offset the pin weight by putting something in the garage, especially if you tow with full water.
My empty pin weight on my trailer is 2600lbs.
I put a 2700lb sand rail in my toy hauler, but with full water, my pin weight actually goes up to 3400lbs. It also depends on where your water tanks are located.
So, if you want to live by the tow ratings, you need to be looking at a bumper pull trailer.
I had a 2004 SRW F350, but once I ordered my 5th wheel, I proceeded to trade my truck in on a Dually. I am one of those people that go by tow ratings, so having the correct truck for my trailer was important to me.
When it comes to money, I am the practical, wise and frugal one. So yes, I wear the pants when it comes to spending and money management.
I have been looking at the bumper pull toy haulers. Thank you for that advice. We don't want one of the land yacht toy haulers.
Like I said, we are still in the learning process, so it's wise to ask questions, which is what I am doing here. We do understand at this point that we won't be able to offset the pin weight enough to make a difference.
We did wonder about the water tanks and how that would affect things as well. Thank you for your input on that.
I'm glad that you are in a financial position to manage being able to order a new fifth wheel, then turn right around and trade up to bigger truck. For us, that would be two sizable monthly payments on top of a sizable mortgage that I don't feel is a wise choice for us. Not everyone is in that position, though. We're just an average, middle class family. I guess we don't quite fit in.
Hi There, I saw this post and was hoping you would not take offense but, figured you might. I have been around this forum a long time and I can pretty much guarantee he did not mean to offend but to put a smile on a few faces. that being said, we are here to help and ask questions don't let anyone's post send you away. You are doing the correct thing and asking the correct questions. Most of us here can not go out and buy a new TV, a few can. I seam to be in the same place you are asking the same questions and I have been RVing for many years. I know I can't tow the rig I want but what someone else to verify so i don't give up with out some sort of back up...
FYI this might work for me you might be able to do something similar.. I found a F550 that is 2 years older than my current tow vehicle that is worth about the same.. I might try and sell my F350 and get the F550.
โJul-24-2013 08:04 AM
broccoli2 wrote:
Trying not to hijack this thread but I am in the same predicament. I have an 07 f350 SRW 4x4 crew cab. I bought this to tow my 32 foot WW bumper pull. Towed it with no problems. I sold that and I've had a class A for the last few years, sold that and now found the perfect 09 WW CLD 4005. I was pretty much ready to go pick it up when it dawned on me that it's pretty heavy. 18,000 pounds with a 2800lb pin weight. I'm having a pretty hard time figuring out what my 07 can handle. What I've found. With 4:30 gears I have a 26k gcwr I have not weighed my truck since I had the bumper pull years ago, I would think its at least 6k. That leaves 20k. Is that to close? I see these trucks pull these massive toy haulers all the time. What can I do to my truck short of adding wheels can I do
โJul-24-2013 08:00 AM
Bedlam wrote:
Since you already have the tow vehicle, what about looking at a car hauler style FW that has living quarters up front? I looked at InTech, Millennium and FeatherLite because they use an aluminum chassis and smaller draft behind your truck. These are more expensive since the construction is aluminum instead of steel, but it gives you the biggest unit for the minimum weight. Race Junkies could be a source for used models.
http://www.racejunkies.com/
โJul-24-2013 07:13 AM
โJul-24-2013 07:08 AM
โJul-24-2013 07:06 AM
miboje wrote:lincster wrote:
Guess who wears the pants in the family. LOL
Hate to tell you, but if you go by tow ratings alone, and you want to stick within those tow ratings, you don't have the right truck for a big 5th wheel toyhauler.
You won't offset the pin weight by putting something in the garage, especially if you tow with full water.
My empty pin weight on my trailer is 2600lbs.
I put a 2700lb sand rail in my toy hauler, but with full water, my pin weight actually goes up to 3400lbs. It also depends on where your water tanks are located.
So, if you want to live by the tow ratings, you need to be looking at a bumper pull trailer.
I had a 2004 SRW F350, but once I ordered my 5th wheel, I proceeded to trade my truck in on a Dually. I am one of those people that go by tow ratings, so having the correct truck for my trailer was important to me.
When it comes to money, I am the practical, wise and frugal one. So yes, I wear the pants when it comes to spending and money management.
I have been looking at the bumper pull toy haulers. Thank you for that advice. We don't want one of the land yacht toy haulers.
Like I said, we are still in the learning process, so it's wise to ask questions, which is what I am doing here. We do understand at this point that we won't be able to offset the pin weight enough to make a difference.
We did wonder about the water tanks and how that would affect things as well. Thank you for your input on that.
I'm glad that you are in a financial position to manage being able to order a new fifth wheel, then turn right around and trade up to bigger truck. For us, that would be two sizable monthly payments on top of a sizable mortgage that I don't feel is a wise choice for us. Not everyone is in that position, though. We're just an average, middle class family. I guess we don't quite fit in.
โJul-24-2013 06:52 AM
lincster wrote:
Guess who wears the pants in the family. LOL
Hate to tell you, but if you go by tow ratings alone, and you want to stick within those tow ratings, you don't have the right truck for a big 5th wheel toyhauler.
You won't offset the pin weight by putting something in the garage, especially if you tow with full water.
My empty pin weight on my trailer is 2600lbs.
I put a 2700lb sand rail in my toy hauler, but with full water, my pin weight actually goes up to 3400lbs. It also depends on where your water tanks are located.
So, if you want to live by the tow ratings, you need to be looking at a bumper pull trailer.
I had a 2004 SRW F350, but once I ordered my 5th wheel, I proceeded to trade my truck in on a Dually. I am one of those people that go by tow ratings, so having the correct truck for my trailer was important to me.
โJul-24-2013 06:42 AM
miboje wrote:broccoli2 wrote:
Trying not to hijack this thread but I am in the same predicament. I have an 07 f350 SRW 4x4 crew cab. I bought this to tow my 32 foot WW bumper pull. Towed it with no problems. I sold that and I've had a class A for the last few years, sold that and now found the perfect 09 WW CLD 4005. I was pretty much ready to go pick it up when it dawned on me that it's pretty heavy. 18,000 pounds with a 2800lb pin weight. I'm having a pretty hard time figuring out what my 07 can handle. What I've found. With 4:30 gears I have a 26k gcwr I have not weighed my truck since I had the bumper pull years ago, I would think its at least 6k. That leaves 20k. Is that to close? I see these trucks pull these massive toy haulers all the time. What can I do to my truck short of adding wheels can I do
Our '03 F-350 comes in at 7,740 with 1/4 tank of diesel, a dog, and a 200 lb. man, so I'm thinking your truck is probably heavier than 6K. It's best to find a scale and get your truck weighed loaded with people, pets, fuel and stuff you'll take in it, just as you would be taking it for camping.
โJul-24-2013 06:42 AM