Jul-23-2013 12:55 PM
Jul-26-2013 06:13 AM
miboje wrote:
They are listing the pin weight at over 200 lbs. less than stated on Heartland's web site. Of course, the trailer is a little heavier with those options, but not a lot.
Jul-25-2013 01:52 PM
lincster wrote:
Don't mean to be a downer, but I am not believing those weight numbers from Heartland.
I weighed my trailer on a CAT scale the day I brought it home.
9000lbs on the axles and 2600lbs on the pin, total of 11,600 lbs and that was a totally empty trailer!!!!!
That Heartland has 3 slides to it and slides are heavy.
I would ask the dealer if they will take it to a scale before I bought it, if you are concerned with weights.
Jul-25-2013 10:38 AM
Jul-25-2013 07:44 AM
Macman83 wrote:
Point is, don't bite off more than you are willing to chew. If you are worried that your rig, whatever it may be, will be too much for you to handle, then it probably will be. Cut back to your comfortable weight/length/configuration and I can guarantee you that you will enjoy camping much more, and will probably do it more often.
Jul-25-2013 07:19 AM
Macman83 wrote:
because friends who should know said that with the mods that I had done, the truck should be fine.
Jul-24-2013 06:55 PM
Jul-24-2013 03:39 PM
miboje wrote:720Deere wrote:
When it comes to fresh water, the Fuzion has the fresh tank directly over the axle . Whether empty or full, the fresh water doesn't really affect pin weight. The problem is the trip home if you aren't able to dump the tanks. The black tank is all the way forward and the grey tanks are just behind it so they will add to the pin weight as water is added to them.
Very good point to bring up. This was actually something that dawned on us as we were discussing the issue last evening. That could throw us one way or the other, and the idea of a lighter weight, roomy, well insulated toy hauler may be completely off our list.
Jul-24-2013 02:23 PM
720Deere wrote:
When it comes to fresh water, the Fuzion has the fresh tank directly over the axle . Whether empty or full, the fresh water doesn't really affect pin weight. The problem is the trip home if you aren't able to dump the tanks. The black tank is all the way forward and the grey tanks are just behind it so they will add to the pin weight as water is added to them.
Jul-24-2013 02:16 PM
Jul-24-2013 01:23 PM
TxTiger wrote:
The F250's and F350 SWD of that era have the same tow and payload ratings. I did a lot of research when I was considering a 5th wheel and found that a KZ Sportsman Sportster (dry pin weights between 1,370 and 1,560) and the Puma (351 THSS with dry pin weight of 1,481) were the only possiblities to fit within the payload requirements. Nice units too for the budget minded.
Jul-24-2013 12:38 PM
Jul-24-2013 11:55 AM
lincster wrote:miboje wrote:lincster wrote:stsmark wrote:
To the OP, you actually have a very capable truck, it will pull up to a 36' 2 axle 5ver nicely. Yes the paper ratings don't jive but with good tires ( Load E with 3750 wt Cap ) , well maintained running gear and a level head behind the wheel you should have some fun trips.
A larger hauler I definitely recommend more truck.
Have fun
I wouldn't want a 2 axle 36' toy hauler..... Not with the weights I put inside of mine.
We won't be taking any toys, so that doesn't bother me. See, I don't want a toy hauler to haul toys - I want it for that multifunctional garage space.
We'll take our bicycles and oversize intertubes, but I really only want a toy hauler for the versatility of the garage. We need space for the kids to sleep, but I don't want to give up valuable floor space to a bunk room. The toy hauler garage affords us two queen beds, and a great, spacious hang-out area with the addition of a patio deck, and a dining room for when it rains or is a bit chilly to be outside.
Ok, in your first post, you asked how much weight you have to put in to help offset the pin weight. So.......... I figured it was safe to assume that you were putting actual toys in the garage, not bicycles.... LOL
Jul-24-2013 11:35 AM
Jul-24-2013 11:30 AM
miboje wrote:lincster wrote:stsmark wrote:
To the OP, you actually have a very capable truck, it will pull up to a 36' 2 axle 5ver nicely. Yes the paper ratings don't jive but with good tires ( Load E with 3750 wt Cap ) , well maintained running gear and a level head behind the wheel you should have some fun trips.
A larger hauler I definitely recommend more truck.
Have fun
I wouldn't want a 2 axle 36' toy hauler..... Not with the weights I put inside of mine.
We won't be taking any toys, so that doesn't bother me. See, I don't want a toy hauler to haul toys - I want it for that multifunctional garage space.
We'll take our bicycles and oversize intertubes, but I really only want a toy hauler for the versatility of the garage. We need space for the kids to sleep, but I don't want to give up valuable floor space to a bunk room. The toy hauler garage affords us two queen beds, and a great, spacious hang-out area with the addition of a patio deck, and a dining room for when it rains or is a bit chilly to be outside.
Jul-24-2013 10:04 AM
N-Trouble wrote:
But you pay for that in the form of weight which is what the OP is trying to avoid. Desert Fox trailes have to be one of the heaviest on the market for their size. Years ago I towed one of their 28ft bumper pulls behind an 04 Durmax and couldn't believe how heavy it was for the size of trailer.