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drb1251
Explorer
Explorer
Which is better electric or Hydraulic?
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TXiceman
Explorer II
Explorer II
If you look on the Winnebago forums, you will see that Winnebago stop using Schwintek and went to Power gear and repaired a number under warranty.

Tiffen has approved a newer heavy-duty replacement for Schwintek. It is made by a company called VRoom Slide Systems. This looks interesting.
VRoom Slide Systems

Ken
Amateur Radio Operator.
2023 Cougar 22MLS, toted with a 2022, F150, 3.5L EcoBoost, Crewcab, Max Tow, FORMER Full Time RVer. Travel with a standard schnauzer and a Timneh African Gray parrot

fj12ryder
Explorer III
Explorer III
I do have to say I've read lots more complaints about the Schwintek slide system than either the electric or hydraulic. Most have to do with the slide motors not working together. And the manual is quite vehement about running the slides all the way out, and all the way in. Part way is definitely not recommended. And they keep changing their minds about lubrication. They now say "No Lubrication", whereas they used to recommend a specific type.

Personally I think the Schwintek slides work okay for small slides, but with the bigger slides, not so much.
Howard and Peggy

"Don't Panic"

joebedford
Nomad II
Nomad II
The Schwintek performance very much depends on quality of the installation. I'm sure some of the people building RVs have astigmatism - i.e. can't cut a straight line. Fortunately mine are relatively square.

Biggest problem I had was with the early design (which I have). They don't have slots in the frame to remove the motors - you have to slide the frame out to get at the motors. I've had two motor problems - one actually failed and the other twisted in its mount because the set screw wasn't installed properly - ripped the wiring harness apart.

Never had a mounting screw leak; never lubed the motor; and run my slides part way out all the time. No controller issues.

nickthehunter
Nomad II
Nomad II
TXiceman wrote:
nickthehunter wrote:
TXiceman wrote:
I have had the fewest problems with a good hydraulic system. Schwintek and cable slides are a PITA.

Ken
Please describe for me what the PITA is on the Schwintek system; I'm curious.


Leaks at the track screws required removing and sealing all mounting screws, lubing motor and shaft beatings, Controller issues. etc. You cannot run a slide partially out...it has to be fully extended to keep motors in synch. Pain to replace drive motors.

I will not have another Schwintek. The hydraulic system has been flawless so far.

Ken
Interesting, Iโ€™ve never had a track screw leak, nor have ever taken any out to seal them; never lubed the motor and only spray the track occasionally with the recommended lubricant; never had a controller issue; and have been known to run my slide out partially then pull it back in; never had a problem keeping my motors in sync either. Interesting, two totally polar opposite experiences with the slide system; now the brakes however, what a PITA.

TXiceman
Explorer II
Explorer II
nickthehunter wrote:
TXiceman wrote:
I have had the fewest problems with a good hydraulic system. Schwintek and cable slides are a PITA.

Ken
Please describe for me what the PITA is on the Schwintek system; I'm curious.


Leaks at the track screws required removing and sealing all mounting screws, lubing motor and shaft beatings, Controller issues. etc. You cannot run a slide partially out...it has to be fully extended to keep motors in synch. Pain to replace drive motors.

I will not have another Schwintek. The hydraulic system has been flawless so far.

Ken
Amateur Radio Operator.
2023 Cougar 22MLS, toted with a 2022, F150, 3.5L EcoBoost, Crewcab, Max Tow, FORMER Full Time RVer. Travel with a standard schnauzer and a Timneh African Gray parrot

nickthehunter
Nomad II
Nomad II
TXiceman wrote:
I have had the fewest problems with a good hydraulic system. Schwintek and cable slides are a PITA.

Ken
Please describe for me what the PITA is on the Schwintek system; I'm curious.

ReneeG
Explorer
Explorer
We have hydraulic slides in our 2011 FW, three slides and no problems. Have never had to refill the hydraulic fluid and we do check it as part of our maintenance. Have had a minor leak,but tightened the seal and it's good.
2011 Bighorn 3055RL, 2011 F350 DRW 6.7L 4x4 Diesel Lariat and Hensley TrailerSaver BD3, 1992 Jeep ZJ and 1978 Coleman Concord Pop-Up for remote camping
Dave & Renee plus (Champ, Molly, Paris, Missy, and Maggie in spirit), Mica, Mabel, and Melton

Microlite_Mike
Explorer II
Explorer II
goducks10 wrote:
I've had rack & pinion slides on 3 different trailers for 111-12 years. None ever gave me an issue. I think it's the most reliable slide type made.
Hydraulic will add more $$ to the price of the RV. Never owned an hydraulic slide so can't comment on reliability.


I share this like of Rack and Pinion slide systems.

Mine uses a linear actuator to push out and pull in rather than trying to power the "rack". The actuator uses a ball nut design that's essentially the same as used in large aircraft to deploy slats/flaps and is extremely reliable.

Some regular preventive maintenance on the Rack and Pinion mechanism, which is nothing more than cleaning and lubing (Dry Silicone Lube) as dictated by operating conditions, is all that's needed.

No oil reservoir to leak, no hoses, just simple.
"Knowledge is realizing that the street is one-way, wisdom is looking both directions anyway."


~ Albert Einstein

TXiceman
Explorer II
Explorer II
I have had the fewest problems with a good hydraulic system. Schwintek and cable slides are a PITA.

Ken
Amateur Radio Operator.
2023 Cougar 22MLS, toted with a 2022, F150, 3.5L EcoBoost, Crewcab, Max Tow, FORMER Full Time RVer. Travel with a standard schnauzer and a Timneh African Gray parrot

Tom_Barb
Explorer
Explorer
our Newmar Mountain Aire has a total mechanical slide out.. driven by a single electric motor, in 22 years it has never failed.
2000 Newmar mountain aire 4081 DP, ISC/350 Allison 6 speed, Wrangler JL toad.

Jim-Linda
Explorer II
Explorer II
Have a '98 HH with 3 hydraulic slides, no slide issues yet, I have changed fluid a couple of time and no leaks so far.

Jim

valhalla360
Nomad III
Nomad III
They are all electric but different mechanics:
- Hydraulic
- Worm Gear
- Cables
- Schwintec (?)

Personally, like the worm gear ones.
Tammy & Mike
Ford F250 V10
2021 Gray Wolf
Gemini Catamaran 34'
Full Time spliting time between boat and RV

goducks10
Explorer
Explorer
I've had rack & pinion slides on 3 different trailers for 111-12 years. None ever gave me an issue. I think it's the most reliable slide type made.
Hydraulic will add more $$ to the price of the RV. Never owned an hydraulic slide so can't comment on reliability.

Curly2001
Explorer II
Explorer II
Not a fan of cable slides here in the heat if they use plastic cable pulleys. Guess I am not a fan of schwintek slides, either.....
Curly
2019 Chev. Double cab 2500HD, 6.0, 4:10 diffs, six speed auto
2013 Heartland Sundance XLT 265RK