Surge Supressors

[r2pipes]

Just picked up a new Jayco 321 Fifth wheel. Since most manufacturers do include any type of surge suppression, I have always purchased a post type suppressor just for the added protection. I am now looking at a Progressive Industries HW-50 that will provide surge protection as well as additional filtering of the incoming electric. This "better" system will provide surge protection as well as current deviation protection. I am questioning if this really needed or is it over kill. I can see surges in the line but is a drop or deviation in current common enough to justify the cost of a suppressor like the HW-50, about $300. Anyone had any experience with this..

[ol_Bombero-JC]

Dtank wrote:



Plenty of horror stories out there that can/may cost you thousands of dollars. Even if someone else is footing the bill - down time is a real "downer"!!

Here's a horror story from the archives:

The Electrician Said "Oops"

On edit:

Be sure to see the second post (bottom of first page) by the OP, "bill socal".....The Electrician said "oops" - a little more...

As well as additional replies and info (Autoformers, etc.) on page two by "bill socal". All are a "good read"!..:C


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Pertinent linked thread then (it's old) - - and now!

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[ol_Bombero-JC]

CabinetmakerII wrote:
We bought a portable surge protector when we bought our FW. I used it a few times but never had an issue so I soon forgot about it and quit using it. Big mistake! We stayed in a recently refurbished RV Park in Tombstone AZ. As luck would have it, the pedestal had been mis-wired and we had an over voltage situation. The over voltage took out or microwave hood combo, central vacuum system, and a portable fan. I reported it to the owner and he sent an electrician to see what was wrong. I suppose I could have gotten the park top pay for the damages but I didn't push for it. They did give us one night free stay. I now use the protector every time I hook up to electricity.

Sounds like another version of the "Electrician said Oops" link back on page two.

PI - don't leave home without it - or fail to use it.

:W

[pianotuna]

Hi temc,

My comfort zone is no lower than 108 volts. I'd prefer to fix the problem by the use of an autoformer.

temccarthy1 wrote:


Sorry Bumpy-- I meant 104 Volts.

[temccarthy1]

Bumpyroad wrote:

temccarthy1 wrote:

r2pipes wrote:
Just picked up a new Jayco 321 Fifth wheel. Since most manufacturers do include any type of surge suppression, I have always purchased a post type suppressor just for the added protection. I am now looking at a Progressive Industries HW-50 that will provide surge protection as well as additional filtering of the incoming electric. This "better" system will provide surge protection as well as current deviation protection. I am questioning if this really needed or is it over kill. I can see surges in the line but is a drop or deviation in current common enough to justify the cost of a suppressor like the HW-50, about $300. Anyone had any experience with this..

The Progressive EM unit either in 30A or 50A is tremendous! I felt same as you since it is a $260 investment but after reading hundreds of testimonials from real users on Amazon, I bought one last Spring. In the 2nd campground we were in at Cayuga Falls State park in NY, we experienced very low voltage every day for 5 days for up to an hour or more and the unit shut down my power when below 94 volts, and saved serious damage to my electronics and AC. Park Ranger was fully aware of the problem and agreed it can cause serious damage, but said NY state engineers hadn't fixed it in 2 years! Then in the next campground, also a NY state park, we had the unit shut down for overvoltage ( over 134 volts). It turns the power back on automatically when it is safe and has a lifetime warranty! It is a serious problem but most campers don't know it is happening-- so make the investment! You will save thousands in damage and/or shortened life of your appliances!

if it was 94 volts, return the unit as that is way too low.
bumpy

Sorry Bumpy-- I meant 104 Volts.

[Bumpyroad]

pianotuna wrote:
Or add an autoformer such as the Sola Basic which solves both the low and high voltage issue.

temccarthy1 wrote:
The Progressive EM unit either in 30A or 50A is tremendous!

experienced very low voltage every day for 5 days for up to an hour or more and the unit shut down my power when below 94 volts, and saved serious damage to my electronics and AC.

Then in the next campground, also a NY state park, we had the unit shut down for overvoltage ( over 134 volts). It turns the power back on automatically when it is safe and has a lifetime warranty!

Bumpyroad wrote:


if it was 94 volts, return the unit as that is way too low.
bumpy

even if an autoformer can solve the 94 volt problem, should a Progressive unit allow things to run normally at that low a voltage? isn't it defective? or did I misunderstand his post, that the voltage dropped to 94 and it went that low before shutting off?
bumpy

[pianotuna]

Or add an autoformer such as the Sola Basic which solves both the low and high voltage issue.

temccarthy1 wrote:
The Progressive EM unit either in 30A or 50A is tremendous!

experienced very low voltage every day for 5 days for up to an hour or more and the unit shut down my power when below 94 volts, and saved serious damage to my electronics and AC.

Then in the next campground, also a NY state park, we had the unit shut down for overvoltage ( over 134 volts). It turns the power back on automatically when it is safe and has a lifetime warranty!

Bumpyroad wrote:


if it was 94 volts, return the unit as that is way too low.
bumpy

[Bumpyroad]

temccarthy1 wrote:

r2pipes wrote:
Just picked up a new Jayco 321 Fifth wheel. Since most manufacturers do include any type of surge suppression, I have always purchased a post type suppressor just for the added protection. I am now looking at a Progressive Industries HW-50 that will provide surge protection as well as additional filtering of the incoming electric. This "better" system will provide surge protection as well as current deviation protection. I am questioning if this really needed or is it over kill. I can see surges in the line but is a drop or deviation in current common enough to justify the cost of a suppressor like the HW-50, about $300. Anyone had any experience with this..

The Progressive EM unit either in 30A or 50A is tremendous! I felt same as you since it is a $260 investment but after reading hundreds of testimonials from real users on Amazon, I bought one last Spring. In the 2nd campground we were in at Cayuga Falls State park in NY, we experienced very low voltage every day for 5 days for up to an hour or more and the unit shut down my power when below 94 volts, and saved serious damage to my electronics and AC. Park Ranger was fully aware of the problem and agreed it can cause serious damage, but said NY state engineers hadn't fixed it in 2 years! Then in the next campground, also a NY state park, we had the unit shut down for overvoltage ( over 134 volts). It turns the power back on automatically when it is safe and has a lifetime warranty! It is a serious problem but most campers don't know it is happening-- so make the investment! You will save thousands in damage and/or shortened life of your appliances!

if it was 94 volts, return the unit as that is way too low.
bumpy

[temccarthy1]

r2pipes wrote:
Just picked up a new Jayco 321 Fifth wheel. Since most manufacturers do include any type of surge suppression, I have always purchased a post type suppressor just for the added protection. I am now looking at a Progressive Industries HW-50 that will provide surge protection as well as additional filtering of the incoming electric. This "better" system will provide surge protection as well as current deviation protection. I am questioning if this really needed or is it over kill. I can see surges in the line but is a drop or deviation in current common enough to justify the cost of a suppressor like the HW-50, about $300. Anyone had any experience with this..

The Progressive EM unit either in 30A or 50A is tremendous! I felt same as you since it is a $260 investment but after reading hundreds of testimonials from real users on Amazon, I bought one last Spring. In the 2nd campground we were in at Cayuga Falls State park in NY, we experienced very low voltage every day for 5 days for up to an hour or more and the unit shut down my power when below 94 volts, and saved serious damage to my electronics and AC. Park Ranger was fully aware of the problem and agreed it can cause serious damage, but said NY state engineers hadn't fixed it in 2 years! Then in the next campground, also a NY state park, we had the unit shut down for overvoltage ( over 134 volts). It turns the power back on automatically when it is safe and has a lifetime warranty! It is a serious problem but most campers don't know it is happening-- so make the investment! You will save thousands in damage and/or shortened life of your appliances!

[glazier]

I have been shopping surge protectors recently too.I must have been lucky in the past, I will not be without one next season.

[The_Barbarian1]

I had a surge protector integrated into my wiring system in my rig. Camping World installed it so I can read it when I open the storage compartment under the bedroom. They cut into the wall and installed a clear sheet of thick plastic so I can read it. No worries of someone stealing it off my pole. Too much electronics in our rigs not to have surge protectors.

[Bumpyroad]

CabinetmakerII wrote:
We bought a portable surge protector when we bought our FW. I used it a few times but never had an issue so I soon forgot about it and quit using it. Big mistake! We stayed in a recently refurbished RV Park in Tombstone AZ. As luck would have it, the pedestal had been mis-wired and we had an over voltage situation. The over voltage took out or microwave hood combo, central vacuum system, and a portable fan. I reported it to the owner and he sent an electrician to see what was wrong. I suppose I could have gotten the park top pay for the damages but I didn't push for it. They did give us one night free stay. I now use the protector every time I hook up to electricity.

YEP,But your example is an "immediate" casualty. the electric gurus here seem to indicate that an "unseen" casualty is a history of over/under abuse that causes the device to fail early which should also be considered.
bumpy

[CabinetmakerII]

We bought a portable surge protector when we bought our FW. I used it a few times but never had an issue so I soon forgot about it and quit using it. Big mistake! We stayed in a recently refurbished RV Park in Tombstone AZ. As luck would have it, the pedestal had been mis-wired and we had an over voltage situation. The over voltage took out or microwave hood combo, central vacuum system, and a portable fan. I reported it to the owner and he sent an electrician to see what was wrong. I suppose I could have gotten the park top pay for the damages but I didn't push for it. They did give us one night free stay. I now use the protector every time I hook up to electricity.

[Allworth]

I found mine in the Warehouse Deals at Amazon.

After about a year there was a mechanical problem with the outlet socket (one blade slipped out of place) and PI replaced it with a brand new one.

[Wumba]

Another vote for PI

[Dtank]

time2roll wrote:

popeyemth wrote:
Anyone know of any Black Friday deals ?
Or cyber Monday?

Did you even look?

http://www.progressiveindustries.net/

Use the link, but - *LOOK FURTHER*!! (At the other PI Products)

The link to the PI Cyber Monday sale is *NOT* for the PI EMS models.

Suggest anyone considering PI should evaluate the differences.

The EMS models are pricey, but as a poster stated, "worth every penny"

EMS PT 30C and PT 50C = portable.

EMS HW 30C and HW 50C = hardwired

Worth the extra bucks!
Plenty of horror stories out there that can/may cost you thousands of dollars. Even if someone else is footing the bill - down time is a real "downer"!!

Here's a horror story from the archives:

The Electrician Said "Oops"

On edit:

Be sure to see the second post (bottom of first page) by the OP, "bill socal".....The Electrician said "oops" - a little more...

As well as additional replies and info (Autoformers, etc.) on page two by "bill socal". All are a "good read"!..:C


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