Tire inflation

[Shoe2728]

Got E rated tires installed, 80psi max, Tire guy said it would be better to run around 65-70 psi as tires heat up. Always thought I should run max cold rating 80psi. FW weight is around 9000 lbs hooked up to truck.

[Cummins12V98]

MM49 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Can I show mine also? GY H TRAILER TIRE

BTW almost 3 years and at least 30K

Will your trailer have Disc brakes? Are you going to specify ABS. The Tuson system is quite nice.
MM49

Current and new MS on order will have Disk brakes. Never will go back to electric. No nothing about ABS on RV. I just know the TV and RV stop amazingly FAST!

[Me_Again]

MM49 wrote:
you missing the point! it is the materials and design, but you know that.
MM49

Both the XPS Rib and R250 use a hard summer type tread compound that is not grabby at all. I am sure the G614 and G114 use similar compounds, as they all last 50-100K miles. My XPS RIBs with 40+K were at 65 % tread left.

Provide some real facts, just don't jump up and down saying the sky is falling. Michelin recommends their XPS Rib for commercial trailer use.

"Michelin® XPS Rib® tires are the best value per mile in the Michelin commercial tire lineup and an ideal choice for commercial trailers because of low rolling resistance (for better fuel economy), a long-wear rib tread design and retreadability. These tires also have the strength of a reinforced all-steel construction for lasting durability."

The people you are debating with all have 5th wheels and lots of miles running quality tires. Tell us about your trailer and experience! Put it in your profile so people have a reference point!

Chris

[MM49]

rhagfo wrote:

MM49 wrote:

rhagfo wrote:

MM49 wrote:

Me Again wrote:
OK, boys and girls, I took this picture in Lost Wages last month of a semi trailer next to me at Circus Circus RV:



Then I turned around and took a picture of my trailer tires:

You really need to learn to chew gum and think. There are many other aspects of tire friction, construction, compound, air pressure and many other items. The same engineering goals still stand. Just like the last 30 years.
MM49

Really, so answer me this if construction of the tire is so important to where it is used??

Semis, buy NEW tires for the steer axle, as required by law. once the tread gets worn, those casings are caped, and likely first placed in the drive axles for a couple cycles. Then after several cycles, they are capped and placed in use as trailer tires. All with the same casing construction, just a change in tread design!
So those of us that run LT tires are doing the same a Semi owner/drivers.

You really shouldn't compare commercial trailers and tires to RV. There are significant differences. Take a look at the semi-trailers frame and suspension carriage. They are constructed out of High tensile steel. They have the material and design to withstand the forces from the load and turning. The RV frame is mild steel. It will bend until you exceed the elastic limits. The RV design uses all of its components tolerance and bending to absorb the forces when cornering. The axel will shift then bend along with the tire forming z shape to get around a sharp corner. The semi will slide the tire long before much bending happens.
MM49

You really think so?
Heaver, yes, but heaver in relationship to the weight carried don't think so! The tare weight of a semi and trailer earns no revenue! Smart owner operators run the lightest equipment the can without giving up too much strength.

you missing the point! it is the materials and design, but you know that.
MM49

[rhagfo]

MM49 wrote:

rhagfo wrote:

MM49 wrote:

Me Again wrote:
OK, boys and girls, I took this picture in Lost Wages last month of a semi trailer next to me at Circus Circus RV:



Then I turned around and took a picture of my trailer tires:

You really need to learn to chew gum and think. There are many other aspects of tire friction, construction, compound, air pressure and many other items. The same engineering goals still stand. Just like the last 30 years.
MM49

Really, so answer me this if construction of the tire is so important to where it is used??

Semis, buy NEW tires for the steer axle, as required by law. once the tread gets worn, those casings are caped, and likely first placed in the drive axles for a couple cycles. Then after several cycles, they are capped and placed in use as trailer tires. All with the same casing construction, just a change in tread design!
So those of us that run LT tires are doing the same a Semi owner/drivers.

You really shouldn't compare commercial trailers and tires to RV. There are significant differences. Take a look at the semi-trailers frame and suspension carriage. They are constructed out of High tensile steel. They have the material and design to withstand the forces from the load and turning. The RV frame is mild steel. It will bend until you exceed the elastic limits. The RV design uses all of its components tolerance and bending to absorb the forces when cornering. The axel will shift then bend along with the tire forming z shape to get around a sharp corner. The semi will slide the tire long before much bending happens.
MM49

You really think so?
Heaver, yes, but heaver in relationship to the weight carried don't think so! The tare weight of a semi and trailer earns no revenue! Smart owner operators run the lightest equipment the can without giving up too much strength.

[Me_Again]

MM49 does not seem to understand the differences of tread of a full rib tire like I posted and the A/S type tread on most ST tires that put more strain of the suspension components. Chris

[MM49]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Can I show mine also? GY H TRAILER TIRE

BTW almost 3 years and at least 30K

Will your trailer have Disc brakes? Are you going to specify ABS. The Tuson system is quite nice.
MM49

[Cummins12V98]

Can I show mine also? GY H TRAILER TIRE

BTW almost 3 years and at least 30K

[MM49]

rhagfo wrote:

MM49 wrote:

Me Again wrote:
OK, boys and girls, I took this picture in Lost Wages last month of a semi trailer next to me at Circus Circus RV:



Then I turned around and took a picture of my trailer tires:

You really need to learn to chew gum and think. There are many other aspects of tire friction, construction, compound, air pressure and many other items. The same engineering goals still stand. Just like the last 30 years.
MM49

Really, so answer me this if construction of the tire is so important to where it is used??

Semis, buy NEW tires for the steer axle, as required by law. once the tread gets worn, those casings are caped, and likely first placed in the drive axles for a couple cycles. Then after several cycles, they are capped and placed in use as trailer tires. All with the same casing construction, just a change in tread design!
So those of us that run LT tires are doing the same a Semi owner/drivers.

You really shouldn't compare commercial trailers and tires to RV. There are significant differences. Take a look at the semi-trailers frame and suspension carriage. They are constructed out of High tensile steel. They have the material and design to withstand the forces from the load and turning. The RV frame is mild steel. It will bend until you exceed the elastic limits. The RV design uses all of its components tolerance and bending to absorb the forces when cornering. The axel will shift then bend along with the tire forming z shape to get around a sharp corner. The semi will slide the tire long before much bending happens.
MM49

[rhagfo]

MM49 wrote:

Me Again wrote:
OK, boys and girls, I took this picture in Lost Wages last month of a semi trailer next to me at Circus Circus RV:



Then I turned around and took a picture of my trailer tires:

You really need to learn to chew gum and think. There are many other aspects of tire friction, construction, compound, air pressure and many other items. The same engineering goals still stand. Just like the last 30 years.
MM49

Really, so answer me this if construction of the tire is so important to where it is used??

Semis, buy NEW tires for the steer axle, as required by law. once the tread gets worn, those casings are caped, and likely first placed in the drive axles for a couple cycles. Then after several cycles, they are capped and placed in use as trailer tires. All with the same casing construction, just a change in tread design!
So those of us that run LT tires are doing the same a Semi owner/drivers.

[MM49]

Me Again wrote:
So MM49 please tell us what you think is a good trailer tire! While you are at it, why not tell us about your trailer. Its a 8 or 9K bumper pull right?

Why do the bumper pull guys all know more about trailer tires for 5th wheels than those with 5th wheels????

Somebody else that needs to fill out their profile so there is a reference to their posts!

Chris

One better, Your the self appointed trailer tire expert. Please tell all of us why Carslisle and Maxxis are so sucessful. I think that is would be a nice contrast to your LT tire drum beat.
MM49

[Me_Again]

So MM49 please tell us what you think is a good trailer tire! While you are at it, why not tell us about your trailer. Its a 8 or 9K bumper pull right?

Why do the bumper pull guys all know more about trailer tires for 5th wheels than those with 5th wheels????

Somebody else that needs to fill out their profile so there is a reference to their posts!

Chris

[MM49]

Me Again wrote:
OK, boys and girls, I took this picture in Lost Wages last month of a semi trailer next to me at Circus Circus RV:



Then I turned around and took a picture of my trailer tires:



And this is what Goodyears expensive high end trailer tire looks like:



We have a trend going folks until we get to ST tires. They have there own trend going that looks a lot like an A/S tread!

Tow Max:



Carlisle:



Marathon:



Greenball:



Maxxis:



Then we get down to Westlake and the trend switches back a bit.

Westlake's LRE



Westlake's LRG



Sailun S637 LRG

You really need to learn to chew gum and think. There are many other aspects of tire friction, construction, compound, air pressure and many other items. The same engineering goals still stand. Just like the last 30 years.
MM49

[Me_Again]

OK, boys and girls, I took this picture in Lost Wages last month of a semi trailer next to me at Circus Circus RV:



Then I turned around and took a picture of my trailer tires:



And this is what Goodyears expensive high end trailer tire looks like:



We have a trend going folks until we get to ST tires. They have there own trend going that looks a lot like an A/S tread!

Tow Max:



Carlisle:



Marathon:



Greenball:



Maxxis:



Then we get down to Westlake and the trend switches back a bit.

Westlake's LRE



Westlake's LRG



Sailun S637 LRG

[RustyJC]

MM49 wrote:
Trailer tire design recommends less traction and less grip for better performance in trailer application.

Really? So I WANT my trailer passing the truck under heavy braking on slick surfaces? Ummmm.....I don't think so.

Rusty