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352
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Does anyone have any information from the tire manufacturer why we should use trailer tires instead of truck tires on trailers? If all the side wall ply and tread ply are the same, what is the difference?
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time2roll
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Old-Biscuit wrote:
kydale wrote:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=219

Enjoy


Who would use 'P' rated tire on a trailer :H
I might on a single axle. Derate 10%

joeburnes
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mileshuff wrote:

Big issue for me is that there are no major well known tire companies making ST tires except Goodyear with their Marathon. Goodyear moved production of that tire to China and the quality went down. Most ST tires are made in China by manufactures few would recognize. The only ST thats often recommended here would be Maxxis. A 2nd possibly might be Carlisle. They have a long history of having a horribly bad tire. However, they came out with a newer design about 3 years ago that many say is decent. In otherwords, my issue isn't ST vs LT. Its manufacture and consumer experiences for me.



I admittedly don't know much about this topic other than to say that if you have the money and have chosen a manufacturer, go with the highest weight rating you can afford. Reason is they will run cooler and there will be less stress on them, thus reducing the chance of a blowout.

As for Carlisle, I never knew them until I bought a cargo mate trailer that had them on it in 2008. I obviously didn't know what I was doing when I ended up pulling 15,000 lbs with my 1/2 ton from MO to TX. When you pretty much have to tap the brakes to be able to steer, you know you need to start reading stuff. lol My axles were 3,750 and the tires are rated about 2,000 each (I think). I had no issues. Now, the trailer has made a few trips since, but mostly sat in the same spot for years. I had to move it recently and it was obvious the tires were dry rotting. My tire guy said he wouldn't risk it. I bought a spare just in case and took the trailer 200 miles with no issues. A year later (2015), I did that 200 mile trip again. I blew a tire within 5 miles of home because of a construction area that was rougher than a washboarded dirt road. The tire lost its tread, but held together. It was the rear of 2 axles and caused NO damage to the trailer. I know who I'll buy tires from when I have to move the trailer again or when my 5th wheel needs new ones.
Also, I've heard of people filling their tires with Nitrogen as it stays cooler under high heat conditions.
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donn0128 wrote:
I take it you have not searched the forums yet? Your question will turn into a he said, he said argument real quick.


Hmmmmmm - the OP ("352") has been on the forums since 2004

Either he has been living in a cave in Tibet - with no access to the internet or other social media.......

Or -

he's stirring the pot.

OP - *if* you fall into the first category - the answer (as already noted) is spelled S-E-A-R-C-H....as in SEARCH, SEARCH, SEARCH...:R

The thread title (subject) you chose, would be a good 'keyword' for same (the search). NO need to enter it 3 times or in CAPS...;)

Of course, you could PM "4X4Dodger" (Fast Eagle's kin - or a GY tire dealer) and he will happily detail the merits of ST tires!...:W


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mileshuff
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352 wrote:
Does anyone have any information from the tire manufacturer why we should use trailer tires instead of truck tires on trailers? If all the side wall ply and tread ply are the same, what is the difference?


Big issue for me is that there are no major well known tire companies making ST tires except Goodyear with their Marathon. Goodyear moved production of that tire to China and the quality went down. Most ST tires are made in China by manufactures few would recognize. The only ST thats often recommended here would be Maxxis. A 2nd possibly might be Carlisle. They have a long history of having a horribly bad tire. However, they came out with a newer design about 3 years ago that many say is decent. In otherwords, my issue isn't ST vs LT. Its manufacture and consumer experiences for me.

Simply put, there just aren't very many top brand ST tires made but there are a ton of junk China brand ST's. There are quite a few LT's that many here have had great luck with. Michelin does list their XPS Rib LT's as being suitable for RV's. I have about 15,000 miles on mine so far and doing great.
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Old-Biscuit
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kydale wrote:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=219

Enjoy


Who would use 'P' rated tire on a trailer :H
Is it time for your medication or mine?


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kydale
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http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=219

Enjoy

Old-Biscuit
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I use LT tires on my truck and trailers.......
Is it time for your medication or mine?


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2007 HitchHiker II 32.5 UKTG 2000W Xantex Inverter
US NAVY------USS Decatur DDG31

ADAD437
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trailer tires are supposed to give a softer ride but as mentioned they blow quicker. personaly i use truck tires on my A and it handles good enough for me.

James,Gail & Pancho
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JIMNLIN
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ST tire makers/dealers says we should use ST tires and not P or LT.

P and LT tire makers/dealers tell us we can use thier P or the LT if the tire meets the load capacity.

Its simply that simple :R.

Difference ?? Having made a living using both I've found much higher quality and long term service from a quality LT tire.
"good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" ............ Will Rogers

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downtheroad
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FACT: Use the round rubber ones...

The rest of the thread will be opinions and probably turn nasty.
"If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane."

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Allworth
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Enter "tires" in the search field and read for the next year.

Simple answer: Trailer tires (ST) "seem" to blow out more often than light truck (LT) tires.

Using ALL CAPS is considered yelling. Not polite.
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donn0128
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I take it you have not searched the forums yet? Your question will turn into a he said, he said argument real quick.