Transeagle 14ply tires

[wingcat]

Has anyone heard of or run these Transeagle tires on their Fifth Wheel? Our local tire dealer is recommending them to me. We have the Goodyear Endurance tires which came on our Pinnacle now but really want to go to a G rated tire. The load range is over 4000 per tire.
Opinions?

[bucky]

Likes to tow wrote:

bucky wrote:
Goodyear Endurance ARE ST tires.

Yes they are and also they are made in the USA and are not considered "China bombs" like so many other ST brands

That's why I'm running them.

[cummins2014]

joebedford wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
16,500# 5er sure does not have 4,125# on each:B tire. Did you forget to subtract a minimum of 4,125# for the pin and most likely more?

I have a 19,000 pound 5er with 3,080 on the pin. I think your calcs are off.

Wondering the same , must be that new math . :B

[joebedford]

Retired JSO wrote:
Only the GY 614 is G rated not the Endurance. For a low cost and reliable G tire, the proven Sailun 637 is what I would purchase.

I have 6 Sailun S637 235/85R16STs on my 19000lb rig. Each tire carries about 2600lbs. I don't know if these tires are G rated or H, but each tire is rated at 4400lbs at 110 PSI. Tread depth is 10/32nds. It may be overkill but I don't have to worry about blowouts any more.

[joebedford]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
16,500# 5er sure does not have 4,125# on each tire. Did you forget to subtract a minimum of 4,125# for the pin and most likely more?

I have a 19,000 pound 5er with 3,080 on the pin. I think your calcs are off.

[Cummins12V98]

16,500# 5er sure does not have 4,125# on each tire. Did you forget to subtract a minimum of 4,125# for the pin and most likely more?

Too funny as all I ever heard was the ENDURANCE was not on the mArket long enough. Back then the “THIN” tread was NOT an issue. Then a few years later the tread all of a sudden became an issue and that is all that can be said since the ENDURANCE has been on the market with a STELLAR RECORD for five years now.

Looks like a "Moderator" edited my post??????

Looks like I figured 25% pin and I should have used 20% that would be 3,300# and that would leave 13,200 on the axles divided by 4 would leave 3,500# on each tire. That would still make the ENDURANCE tire just fine to use.

[JIMNLIN]

A load carrying tire with 8/32" of tread depth has nothing to do with running cooler.
The closer to the carcass gets the surface of the tread the hotter it will run when carrying heavy loads. Thats one reason commercial tires carrying heavy loads have thicker treads.

A load carrying tire vs a lite weight race tire. LOL...not even close to the same tire tech.

If the thin 8/32" of tread depth and only a load range E at 80 psi that is a very good reason Jayco switched to a commercial grade 17.5" load G tire for the 16500 lb Pinnacle. Hell the OPs 16500 lb Pinnacle 36FBTS with 4 tires thats 4125 lbs per tire. Dam good reason to go with a commercial grade load G tire.

With the 16" commercial grade all steel ply carcass load G the OP can expect 60k + miles of service. No one gets that kind of mileage from a load carrying tire with only 8/32" of tread depth.

The best reliable/grades of 16"/17.5" commercial grade tires first came out on commercial non rv trailers. Then many tire savy rv folks saw or heard the kind of service they can get out of that brand or that class tire and apply them to their heavy rv trailer....just like Jayco did by going with the much better 17.5" tires vs a boat trailer tire.

[Cummins12V98]

Allworth wrote:
Shallow treads typically run cooler. Note that racing tires have almost NO tread when just broken in!

GY California rep I dealt with said they intentionally used 8/32".

[Allworth]

Shallow treads typically run cooler. Note that racing tires have almost NO tread when just broken in!

[Retired_JSO]

Only the GY 614 is G rated not the Endurance. For a low cost and reliable G tire, the proven Sailun 637 is what I would purchase.

[Likes_to_tow]

"GY intentionally built the tire with 8/32" tread dept to keep the tire running cooler and they determined most RVers will age out their tires well before they wear them out."

Yes!! You should replace tires at 5 years or so. Tread means nothing!! I've run Endurance on my 5th wheel and tandem axle boat trailer for three years and never had a failure. Tire pressure is always a neglected item. So is lug nut torque........long sad story here!!

[Cummins12V98]

"What was Jayco thinking when they selected a load range E 80 psi tire for a big 16500 lb trailer. Especially a Endurance with those thin 8/32" of tread depth."




First thing what the HE!! does the tread depth have to do with the tires capacity?

Let's do some math. Let's assume a minimal 20% pin that would mean 13,200# on the axles. Take that by 4 and the per tire load is 3,300#. The ST 255/85 R16 has a rating of 4,080# @ 80psi. I think a 780# cushion is plenty.

GY intentionally built the tire with 8/32" tread dept to keep the tire running cooler and they determined most RVers will age out their tires well before they wear them out.

I run them on my Boat trailer and 4 years and well over 20k they still have plenty of tread left.

You always are thinking Commercial and i understand that.

[Cummins12V98]

Here is a chart for the GY ENDURANCE line.

The ST255/85 R16 "E" has a MAX rating of 4,080# @ 80psi. It also has a 87 mph speed rating.

[Cummins12V98]

wingcat wrote:
Has anyone heard of or run these Transeagle tires on their Fifth Wheel? Our local tire dealer is recommending them to me. We have the Goodyear Endurance tires which came on our Pinnacle now but really want to go to a G rated tire. The load range is over 4000 per tire.
Opinions?

OK your RV came with the best tire out there and you want to change??? Please explain why. Are you over the tires capacity? Have you weighed your axles? What tire size do you have now?

Let's put it this way your tire dealer wants to sell you what makes him the most money.

[JIMNLIN]

We have the Goodyear Endurance tires which came on our Pinnacle now but really want to go to a G rated tire.

Good idea.
Looking at Jayco website shows the '22 Pinnacle 36 FBTS same trailer you have now has 17.5" H load range tires.

What was Jayco thinking when they selected a load range E 80 psi tire for a big 16500 lb trailer. Especially a Endurance with those thin 8/32" of tread depth.

The Transeagle ST load G are another all steel ply carcass commercial grade tire. These plus several other brands of all steel ply commercial grade ST tires are made in china but beat any made in the USA tires for reliability in this class.
Now load C/D/E poly carcass ST tires aren't in the same class so they don't compare well at all.

As long as your present wheels are rated for 110 psi and 4400 lbs IMO its a good move considering your present tires.

[Likes_to_tow]

Lantley wrote:

Likes to tow wrote:
I don't think you can do any better than Goodyear Endurance!! ST tires don't really have to meet many regulations..........so many are junk!!

Are Endurance G rated?

I believe you can get G rated in certain sizes. Check with your dealer. These tires are available through special order at WalMart now.