Truck/trailer weight help

[Shipwreck2]

Hey all first post here

We had decided to move up to a fifth wheel so upgraded the truck and bought a fifth wheel and all was good or so we thought. I am supposed to pick up the trailer this Wednesday(in 3 days) and while searching on slide or no slide I found I made a big mistake. We bought a f150 ecoboost with the max tow package thinking that gave me 3000lb cargo and 11000lb tow. Found out that for the 3000lb I need the max cargo option I don't have.

We purchased a cougar xlite 28rbd with a tow weight of 7000lb and pin of 1400lb.

To make sure I don't do a repeat on the truck I'm Herero make sure I don't miss anything. I am now looking at an f250 crew cab 4x4 6.5' box. Dealer has listed it on the website as 2800lb cargo and 9300lb tow capacity even though it has listed the tow package option.

Will this truck/trailer combination make a good pairing? If not what specific features/options do I need? I need to figure out something quick or I will have to start paying storage on the new trailer so I am limited on truck options.

Thanks in advance

[Shipwreck2]

On my way to hopefully buy a 2011 f250 with the 6.7L diesel fully loaded and only 60k I'm (~40k miles)

[JIMNLIN]

Secondly I hadn't looked at any numbers but cargo capacity as if I was pulled over I assumed this would be the number.

Actually roadside dot doesn't use any trucks payload sticker numbers for weighing a overloaded vehicle. The payload sticker is something new the last few years so most trucks on the road out here don't even have one.

What did we do before the payload sticker ??
Just stay under the RAWRs/tire load ratings or a registered gross weight if your state/province uses any, and if your ever pulled over there will be no vehicle over weight ticket.

op wrote:
For a 2011 or newer f250 is there any specific options in regards to towing or cargo loading I need to make sure I get to maximize capabilities?

Look for the F250 with the heavy service package which is the same package as the F350 SRW 7000 RAWR. See my post above.

[Shipwreck2]

For a 2011 or newer f250 is there any specific options in regards to towing or cargo loading I need to make sure I get to maximize capabilities?

[Shipwreck2]

I am starting to figure out part of my confusion. First the capacity stickers on the door and published don't quite match. Secondly I hadn't looked at any numbers but cargo capacity as if I was pulled over I assumed this would be the number.

Now I realize my current f150 does not have the capacity and am not disputing it. It will be replaced so if I refer to it, it is only for reference or my understanding.

I still like like the f150 better then the f250 both in looks and styling. There is a F150 heavy duty with the upgrade 4800lb rawr, 7 lug hubs and e rated tires. Actual cargo sticker is 2242lb on a crew cab 6.5' box 4x4. I know if I filled the camper cargo to max I would be pushing it but I know I don't come close to it and the only time my tanks have liquid is in the campground. What are the thoughts on this as a tv?

[JIMNLIN]

op wrote:
Looking at theF250 specs for a 2015 with the crew cab and 4x4 it drops down to 2100lb capacity. My 150 crew cab 4x4 is 1800 (door sticker). Does the 250 really only get me 300lb more? And if I go diesel it's even less.

I am so confused.

JFI the F250 with the heavy service package has the same package as the F350 SRW with the 7000 RAWR.

You keep referring to your F150 which simply doesn't have enough RAWR to carry a load and pin weight from that size trailer
There is no F150 that has enough RAWR to carry Fords 3000-3300 lb payload number in the bed or on the F150's rear axles/tires. All you have to do is add 3000 lbs to the F150 road ready rear axle which can weigh in the 2000-2500 lb range.

Now when we step up to a 250/350 we get a 6100 RAWR on up to 7000 RAWR for much more usable load carrying capacity. Both trucks have the same rear axle....just different spring packages and suspension blocks.
Just about any 250/2500 will have around 2800-3200 lb for a payload on the trucks RAWR as its carrying all the load.

Choose a truck with plenty of RAWR to carry the load with some reserve and enough motor to pull the trailer with ease.

Any 250/2500 diesel will carry the load and pull a 10k-11k 5th wheel trailer with ease.

[MFL]

Shipwreck2 wrote:
Thanks for all the help so far. I was able to get the trailer dealer to do me a huge favour so now the trailer is good until spring. Gives me area months to finds truck which is going to be hard most of our Canadian trucks see to be headed to the states with the current exchange rate

Looking at theF250 specs for a 2015 with the crew cab and 4x4 it drops down to 2100lb capacity. My 150 crew cab 4x4 is 1800 (door sticker). Does the 250 really only get me 300lb more? And if I go diesel it's even less.

I am so confused.

Shipwreck2, I sent a PM

[Michelle_S]

That very well could be true, that's the reason many suggest just going for the 350/3500 series Trucks with srws, increased capacity and from what I understand very little difference in price. I know a few years back I was looking to order a Chevy 2500 and the Dealer gave me a better deal on a 3500 Dually with all the features I was after. Didn't really need the Dually at that time, but glad I did the deal as it made it much easier when we moved up to a 5er.

[Shipwreck2]

Thanks for all the help so far. I was able to get the trailer dealer to do me a huge favour so now the trailer is good until spring. Gives me area months to finds truck which is going to be hard most of our Canadian trucks see to be headed to the states with the current exchange rate

Looking at theF250 specs for a 2015 with the crew cab and 4x4 it drops down to 2100lb capacity. My 150 crew cab 4x4 is 1800 (door sticker). Does the 250 really only get me 300lb more? And if I go diesel it's even less.

I am so confused.

[1jeep]

OP...I drive a ford super duty but if i had to make a choice between a f250 with the 5.4 and a ram 2500 with the hemi, well i guess i would be a dodge guy. I honestly think the 5.4 is a good engine, but way underpowered for that truck.

[RangerEZ]

Excellent questions OP. I'm looking at that exact camper. I am researching a similar dilemma with my 2500... for me I have 2300# payload which runs out quick with the 1450 hitch weight yet still have plenty of axle capacity left with 6100# RAWR. So, I tend to agree with those above who note RAWR as a key number to watch. FYI, I have two friends with max/max F150 EB trucks. They're very capable outfits and pull great. Payload is the bugaboo. Good luck.

[RustyJC]

2011 Ram information straight from the manufacturer can be found HERE.

Rusty

[Shipwreck2]

Thanks for the heads up on the 5.4L vs the 6.2. Another possible option I had been considering is a 2011 ram 2500 crew cab 4x4 with 6.5' box with the v8 hemi. I previously had the 1500 and was happy with the power. The 2500 I have found already has a sliding hitch installed. I am just having trouble finding the cargo capacity and tow limits for this truck.

[JIMNLIN]

op wrote:
You are correct the250 is a 2010. At this point I am only trying to confirm this has the payload/towing capacity for this specific trailer. We picked the trailer to support our needs for several years so I am not concerned about the truck handling a future trailer just our current one.

Looking at Ford fleet builder specs shows a 2010 F250 4x4 crew cab short bed with a 9300 lb tow rating and a 2800 lb payload ...goes to a 5.4 smallblock gasser with a 3.73 axle.

Looking at a Cougar xlite 28 rdb shows a 10000 GVWR and a 7620 lb dry weight with a 2380 CCC

The F250 has plenty of load carrying capacity for that size trailer. However IMO your not going to like the towing performance a 9k-10k trailer with that small low hp 5.4 engine especially in the hills/mountains and high head wind areas.

As another poster says the F250 with the V10 engine will tow that size trailer with ease.

You sure don't need a one ton DRW for that size trailer.

[MFL]

Most max payload trucks, will only have real world payload yellow sticker around 2100, but more rear axle wt., and better tires. Your 150 would tow that FW better than the 250, with sluggish 5.4, and 5-speed.

If you can stay under your 4,050 RAWR, IMO, the 150 would be the better truck, for that exact FW.

Other option, an older 250 with the V-10, but best, 11 or newer 250, with 6.2, and much improved 6-speed transmission.

Jerry