Whats Your Real Weights? Truck and Trailer. The Real Deal

[juzplanekrazy]

I don’t know if it’s been done before or not but I was thinking about keeping a running list of real truck weights by year and type, and trailer weights by brand, size and what the total combined weight is of each guys rig. I was hoping the info would be a help for guys wondering about what the real weights are for a certain type of truck and to keep track of the more popular brand 5th wheel trailers. Another thing that will come out of it will be to see just how many guys really know what they are towing and if they know what their weight capacities are.
I’m sure it will take some time to compile a list and it will grow as guys add there info but I’m hoping it will help the newer guys in the long run to be directed back over to this thread in the future.
I’ll keep the TV lists to mainly the big 3 and from ¾ ton and up and I’ll try to keep the 5ers in a group by real GVW, length, and then manufacture. Any ideas are welcome as long as it makes things easier. And only real information can be given, so no guessing allowed. Only guys that have scaled there rigs or are totally certain of the weights.
Let’s see if I can keep the format real simple to type down and that will make it simpler for guys to refer back to and to keep track of.
Here we go……

TV - 2006 Dodge Mega Cab 3500 4x4, real scaled weight with full fuel, hitch, DH-DW and misc. gear = 7,500lbs. TV GVWR is 10,200lbs
5ver – KZ New Vision TH 38ft 14,500lbs loaded GVW. GVWR is 18,000lbs
Normal running TV & TH GCW weight= 22,500lbs, TV GCWR is 23,000lbs
Real Wet Pin Weight=2,950lbs

[kitestiff]

TV: 2007 Ram 3500 Laramie Mega 4x4 5.9L Dually (S&b intake, smarty touch, FASS 95, MBRP exhaust, Pacbrake PRXB, Superglide 16K, 3.73 Rear, ATS modified 48RE)

GVWR: 10500 lbs
FAGW: 5200 lbs
RAGW: 9350 lbs
GCWR: 21,000 lbs
Trailer Tow: 13,100

RV: 2016 Chapparal 360IBL

GVWR: 14,000 lbs
GAWR: 7,000 lbs each
Tanks empty
No food or clothes on board

***CAT SCALE RESULTS***

Full fuel, no passengers or myself in during weigh, Superglide 16K in bed, approx 50lbs of tools & Weber Q in bed.

Truck itself:
Steer axle: 4620 lbs
Drive axle: 3760 lbs
Gross Weight: 8380 lbs

Truck w/5er attached
Steer axle: 4600 lbs
Drive axle: 6320 lbs
Trailer axle: 9800 lbs
Gross weight: 20720 lbs

So to conclude w/trailer attached:

Truck GVWR: 10920 lbs (over by 420lbs without passengers)
Trailer PIN: 2540 lbs
GCWR: under by 280lbs

[CWSWine]

Specs of a 2017 Solitude 310GK-R weighted at a CAT scale on 30 Oct 2016

Status from Grand Design Website.
UVW 12,100
Dry Pin Weight 2635

From Grand Design Weight Sheet that came with my 5er and has my VIN listed on the top of the sheet.
GVWR 15,000
GAWR (Per Axle) 7,000
UVW 12226 (Matches Sticker on 5er)
Hitch Weight 2392
Left (Street Side) 5326
Right (Curb Side) 4508
Cargo Carrying Capacity 2714


Truck Specs
Ford F350 Diesel SuperCab 143” Wheel Base 6.5 foot bed.
B&W Campion Hitch non slider
Web Spec 4050 Payload
Yellow Door Sticker 3744
GVWR 11,500
Rear Axle Ratings 7,000
Front Axle Ratings 5,200
GCWR 22,500
Tow Rating 15,900

Truck ONLY Weight Cat Scales
Front Axle Weight - 4740
Rear Axle Weight - 3480
Total Weight 8220

Cat Scale With 5er Hooked up
Steering Axle - 5000lbs
Drive Axle 6320
Trailer Axle 10,520
Gross Combine Weight 21,840

Bottom Line
Truck Weight (Truck Only) 8220
Truck Weight (Hitched) 11,320
Camper Weight 13,620
Pin Weight 3,100
Pin Weight Percentage 22.8%
2392 Factory Pin Weight 3100 scale weight increase of 708 pounds
12,226 Factory UVW 13,600 Cat Scale Weight increase of 1374 lbs
Over 50% of the 1374 pounds loaded went to pin weight
Just goes to show how much weight is loaded forward of the axle
Factory Scale weighs of 2392 pin and 12,226 UVW = 19.6 percent pin weight
Cat Scale Weights 13600 GVW and 3100 pin = 22.8 percent pin percentage or increase of 3.2 Percent over Dry percentage

I’m within 180 pounds of my GVWR of my trucks 11,500 GVWR. We were loaded for a week long trip and we are not full timers.

[Reilly_the_rver]

2008 Ford F-350 v10 dually payload 5400lbs

2010 crossroads cruiser. 12000 rig and 2500 lb pin weight

[mikeh449]

2015 ram 2500 ctd front axle 4750 rear 5100 trailer 7120 total 16940
truck only front 5000 rear 3440 total 8440

[Cummins12V98]

Here's my Cat Scale numbers

[Cummins12V98]

Here is our 39TKSB3 MobileSuites weights at the factory.

[bbaker2001]

looking at my Cat weighs, can I really be this much heavier than everyone else.
2015 diesel CC SRW
4x4 short bed
me wife-dog hitch 2 kayaks
front axle 4920
rear axle 3540
total 8460
GVWR 12,300

2001 30 ft Cardinal GVW 12,300
UVW 9150
NCC 3170

front 4840
rear 6033
total 10873

trailer 8660

does this show I am 2760 pin weight for only a 30 ft 5er
and the 5er weight is
8660 + 2760= 11,400

[StewC130]

2004.5 Ram 2500 SRW: B&W Companion Slider: 2015 Cougar 303RLS

Truck - full fuel: no people in truck
Trailer - Propane full: Grey/Galley/Fresh tanks empty: Black about 9 gallons: Fridge empty: no clothes

Trailer CONNECTED
Front Axle Wt - 4500
Rear Axle Wt - 5500
Trailer Axles Wt - 8250
GCVW - 18250

Trailer Disconnected
Front Axle Wt - 4450
Rear Axle Wt - 3200
Truck Total wt - 7650

[-lenny-]

Truck full of fuel, hitch, tonneau cover, two dogs, wife and I:
Steer 5390
Drive 4730
Total 10,120

And pinned up:
Steer 5434
Drive 8294
Trailer 13728
GCVW 27,456
GCWR 37,800

2015 Ram 3500 DRW Mega Cab with 50 gallon Transfer Flow auxiliary tank and B&W Companion hitch, towing a 2015 Dynamax Trilogy 38RE. Full of fuel, myself, wife and two dogs. Trailer stocked for camping including 3 30 pound propane tanks, full fridge and pantry, and full fresh tank. 5500 Onan, separate washer and dryer, 4 deep cycle batteries, residential fridge.

Under on all axles roughly as follows:
Front 500lbs
Drive 1500
Trailer group 2250


But GVWRs I only have 300 pounds on truck. Trailer has over 1k room. I would like a bit more weight on the steer axle, but it tows so nicely now, and can turn sharper than I am willing to twist the axles with side stress. If truck didn't have auto levelling maybe it would be an issue?

[NWKomfort350]

2013 F350 Crew Cab Long Bed SRW - GVWR - 11,500
2016 Roamer 367 BHS - GVWR - 14,800

Truck Only
Steer Axle - 5,140
Drive Axle - 3,760

Truck and 5er
Steer Axle - 5200
Drive Axle - 6460
Trailer Axles - 10400

Combined weight - 22,060

[mikeh449]

using reese 16k hitch with ram picture frame for gooseneck 5th wheel prep

[bpounds]

mikeh449 wrote:
just weighed new tv and trailer here are the numbers
tv alone front 5000
rear 3440
total 8440
tv 2015 Ram 2500 6.7 ctd

with trailer front 4720
rear 5100
trailer 7120
gross 16940
trailer 2014 eagle ht 27.5 rlts gvw 9900

Any theories about why your front axle weight went down with the fiver hitched? Does not seem possible to lose 280#, even if your hitch were placed too far rearward.

Numbers look good for a 3/4T truck.

[mikeh449]

just weighed new tv and trailer here are the numbers
tv alone front 5000
rear 3440
total 8440
tv 2015 Ram 2500 6.7 ctd

with trailer front 4720
rear 5100
trailer 7120
gross 16940
trailer 2014 eagle ht 27.5 rlts gvw 9900

[CWSWine]

Here are my cat scales weights.

2015 Ford F350 SRW not hooked to 5er
Steer Axles 4740
Rear Axles 3480
GVWR 11500
Payload 3744
RAWR 7000

Cat Sales
Steering Axles 4880
Rear Axles 6460
Trailer Axles 10980
Total 22320

Keystone Montana 3711FL Stats
Camper Weights 14,100
Truck with 5er hitched 11340
Pin Weight 3120
Pin Percentage 22.1

5er Dry weights
Pin Dry 2790
Total Dry 13200

Loaded for a weekend trip. The front living room and front storage was loaded with every thing in it that we would take camping. The bedroom and the food pantry including the fridge are aft of the front axles so those shouldn't increase pin weights by adding weight.

[Michelle_S]

Lets look at it this way: You have a Combined Gross of 13,800 you hook up an RV at your rated capacity of 9,600, now subtract that 9,600 from your GCWR and leaves you 4200 for your truck, cargo, 5th wheel hitch, and passenger. My bet your truck weighs more than the remaining 4200 Lbs. Plus to add to the confusion, those 8000 Lb Dry weights are for a base model before any options, so they actual out the factory door will usually be higher. My last two fivers left the factory better than a 1000 Lbs above brochure dry weights.