Which of the following tires would you NOT recommend?

[Winged_One]

I think I am going to replace my Road Rider ST 235/80-16 E rated tires before we go out west. After weighing the trailer fully loaded, it is putting down about 2750 lbs per tire (on the tires).

What tires would you NOT replace them with from any one of the following LT "E" rated tires:

Goodrich Commercial T/A

Bridgestone Duravis M895

Bridgestone Duravis R250

Bridgestone Duravis R500 HD

Bridgestone R265 5-Rib

Dunlop Rover H/T

Firestone Transforce HT

General Grabber HTS

Goodyear Wrangler HT

Goodyear Wrangler SR-A

Michelin LTX M/S2

Uniroyal Laredo HD/H


As I seem to have an odd size tire (80 series), which would you recommend? 235/85-16 or 245/75-16? Taller or wider? Room underneath for either.

Also, where should they lift the trailer to change the tires? (I cheated and used the lippert to raise the trailer for bearing maintenance).

[Cummins12V98]

fj12ryder wrote:
Put LT tires on and you won't have so much experience. 🙂

BAM!

[fj12ryder]

Put LT tires on and you won't have so much experience. 🙂

[FastEagle]

Me Again wrote:


If they were really concerned about safety standards, they would be looking into the failure rate of these tires.
Chris

From the pages of Michelin.

“WARNING: To ensure correct air pressure and vehicle load, refer to vehicle owner's manual or tire information placard on the vehicle.”

FE

p.s. Never have had a trailer tire fail that I didn't have a good idea what caused it. But, I've had a lot of experiences with tires in my lifetime.

[fj12ryder]

My aluminum wheels did not have a pressure rating, but the weight rating was 3950 lbs. and had steel valve stems. They were good to 110 psi.

[Cummins12V98]

Winged One wrote:
Well, I have been all over the outside of the rims. I can only find a notation for 3580 max load. I cannot find a max air pressure.

The side of the trailer mentions 80lbs max. Though I imagine that relates to the ST tires.

I am hesitant to put on G rated LT tires that need 110lbs max for maximum load value when I cannot be sure of these rims (alloy, 8 lug). Checking online finds similar rims but again, only says max load, not max pressure. Though its kind of hard to believe that these metal rims could not handle a lot more pressure than they are being asked to handle.

I did the E to GY G conversion with 80 psi steel rims on my last RV and ran 85 psi with not even a flat in 5 years. The weight chart said 80 psi but I added 5 psi per GY tech support. The tread wear was very even when I sold the tires. With your aluminum wheels I would not worry a bit. I am sure they are the exact same thing as the ones rated for 110 psi. I am sure if you were to weigh all 4 trailer tires separately you will have at least one tire overloaded because one side is usually heavier than the other. I will bet your drivers side rear!

[Cummins12V98]

Me Again wrote:
Hey chevor, thanks for the feed back on the R500. I have been looking at those in the LT265/75R16E size for my Dodge 2500. I have never liked my LTX M&S tires that well. They pick up every rock they can and then throw them on the highway. The OEM LTX A&S tires were better.

Chris

My Son is into tires and he said the same thing about throwing rocks. I showed him the new M/S Michelins I just put on the Dually and he thought they were good tires.

We will see!

[Winged_One]

Well, I have been all over the outside of the rims. I can only find a notation for 3580 max load. I cannot find a max air pressure.

The side of the trailer mentions 80lbs max. Though I imagine that relates to the ST tires.

I am hesitant to put on G rated LT tires that need 110lbs max for maximum load value when I cannot be sure of these rims (alloy, 8 lug). Checking online finds similar rims but again, only says max load, not max pressure. Though its kind of hard to believe that these metal rims could not handle a lot more pressure than they are being asked to handle.

[Me_Again]

Hey chevor, thanks for the feed back on the R500. I have been looking at those in the LT265/75R16E size for my Dodge 2500. I have never liked my LTX M&S tires that well. They pick up every rock they can and then throw them on the highway. The OEM LTX A&S tires were better.

Chris

[chevor]

I run the Duravis R500 on my truck. Have used that model tires for about 380,000 miles now. They are more of a high torque tire great for drive axel. Personally I would not put a new set of those on the trailer. Wear them first on the truck then move them to the trailer would be me choice. They are a very long lasting tire.
Set of 265/70/17s lasted my about 185k miles
Set of 235/85/16s still on truck might make it over 120k miles

[Me_Again]

FastEagle wrote:


This is not about tire designs. It's about the vehicle manufacturers selection and certification of tires/rims for the vehicles they build and sell to the public at-large. It's about safety standards and how they are applied. Reading a few lines in a single government regulation will hardly ever produce the full answer (s) you seek.

FE

Again, please post a government document that says "Must" not "Should" in choosing a replacement tire. Must is a hard requirement, should is a suggestion!

Post the document with "must" please!

What is safe about tires that fail at the rate ST tires fail. How safe have you felt on the side of the busy highways changing out all your failed tires. Did you ever feel that some of those tire failures put you in personal danger? You are close to "patient zero" of ST tire issues.

"Safety Standards" my aunt Harriet batman! If they were really concerned about safety standards, they would be looking into the failure rate of these tires. How many of your failures did you correctly report? All, some, or none?

Chris

[FastEagle]

Me Again wrote:

FastEagle wrote:

Me Again wrote:

FastEagle wrote:
The reason there is so much emphasis placed on identifying the tires and rims on a RV trailer before it’s sold is to protect the first buyer/owner and all subsequent owners. It sets the bar with the Original Equipment tires. That bar is the minimum requirement for all replacement tires to follow. Equal or greater in size and load capacity. Pretty simple to be so misunderstood.

The information found on the trailer’s certification label is the minimum standard set by the vehicle manufacturer via the vehicle certification process. Anyone that thinks I’m passing this information in error should write and ask NHTSA for clarification.

FastEagle

We have been round this Mayberry bush many time on suggestions verses regs. The poster above post a reg about GAWR. You have never post posted a law, reg or such regarding about equal or greater than OEM tires. Chris

You are always saying how you write places for information. Write NHTSA. I've read all the regs, Have you?

FE

Save us all the time and post a reg, not a suggestion from the NHSTA! Or marketing BS from the ST tire industry! PLEASE! Chris

This is not about tire designs. It's about the vehicle manufacturers selection and certification of tires/rims for the vehicles they build and sell to the public at-large. It's about safety standards and how they are applied. Reading a few lines in a single government regulation will hardly ever produce the full answer (s) you seek.

FE

[Me_Again]

FastEagle wrote:

Me Again wrote:

FastEagle wrote:
The reason there is so much emphasis placed on identifying the tires and rims on a RV trailer before it’s sold is to protect the first buyer/owner and all subsequent owners. It sets the bar with the Original Equipment tires. That bar is the minimum requirement for all replacement tires to follow. Equal or greater in size and load capacity. Pretty simple to be so misunderstood.

The information found on the trailer’s certification label is the minimum standard set by the vehicle manufacturer via the vehicle certification process. Anyone that thinks I’m passing this information in error should write and ask NHTSA for clarification.

FastEagle

We have been round this Mayberry bush many time on suggestions verses regs. The poster above post a reg about GAWR. You have never post posted a law, reg or such regarding about equal or greater than OEM tires. Chris

You are always saying how you write places for information. Write NHTSA. I've read all the regs, Have you?

FE

Save us all the time and post a reg, not a suggestion from the NHSTA! Or marketing BS from the ST tire industry! PLEASE! Chris

[FastEagle]

Me Again wrote:

FastEagle wrote:
The reason there is so much emphasis placed on identifying the tires and rims on a RV trailer before it’s sold is to protect the first buyer/owner and all subsequent owners. It sets the bar with the Original Equipment tires. That bar is the minimum requirement for all replacement tires to follow. Equal or greater in size and load capacity. Pretty simple to be so misunderstood.

The information found on the trailer’s certification label is the minimum standard set by the vehicle manufacturer via the vehicle certification process. Anyone that thinks I’m passing this information in error should write and ask NHTSA for clarification.

FastEagle

We have been round this Mayberry bush many time on suggestions verses regs. The poster above post a reg about GAWR. You have never post posted a law, reg or such regarding about equal or greater than OEM tires. Chris

You are always saying how you write places for information. Write NHTSA. I've read all the regs, Have you?

FE

[kedanie]

BeerCan wrote:

FastEagle wrote:
The reason there is so much emphasis placed on identifying the tires and rims on a RV trailer before it’s sold is to protect the first buyer/owner and all subsequent owners. It sets the bar with the Original Equipment tires. That bar is the minimum requirement for all replacement tires to follow. Equal or greater in size and load capacity. Pretty simple to be so misunderstood.

The information found on the trailer’s certification label is the minimum standard set by the vehicle manufacturer via the vehicle certification process. Anyone that thinks I’m passing this information in error should write and ask NHTSA for clarification.

FastEagle

Seriously, are you on drugs?

:S
Good one!