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FFWIFE50
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Health Insurance for Full timers

Hi, we are looking at changing our residency to SD and are wondering how our health insurance will work. we are both under 65 do not collect SS and are to young for Medicare. We have gotten our insurance through the health care market place. We live in WI and our insurance rates here are high, about 400.00 month. We cant get a quote from the HCMP for a state we do not reside in. Any information on the topic would be appreciated
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TechWriter
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TechWriter wrote:
tsetsaf wrote:
Avoid TX, FL, & SD as neither has a state exchange and will likely lose premium assistance when the sc rules

The upcoming Supreme Court decision this month or July on the legality of health care subsidies is definitely cause for concern.

If possible, it would be best for OP to put off selecting a domicile state until after the SC decision.

If the SC rules against subsidies, the likely state-by-state consequences are here.

No need to worry about this anymore.
2004 - 2010 Part Timer (35’ 2004 National RV Sea Breeze 8341 - Workhorse)
2010 - 2021 Full Timer (41’ 2001 Newmar Mountain Aire 4095 DP - Cummins)
2021 - ??? Part Timer (31’ 2001 National RV Sea View 8311 - Ford)
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TechWriter
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2gypsies wrote:

Owning or not owning a house has nothing to do with medical insurance.

You missed the point . . . Local insurance agents are generally not well-versed (or versed at all) on the effects of domicile on insurance.

2gypsies wrote:

Also, I've never heard of 'RVer health insurance'.

'RVer health insurance' is a web site, not a type of insurance.
2004 - 2010 Part Timer (35’ 2004 National RV Sea Breeze 8341 - Workhorse)
2010 - 2021 Full Timer (41’ 2001 Newmar Mountain Aire 4095 DP - Cummins)
2021 - ??? Part Timer (31’ 2001 National RV Sea View 8311 - Ford)
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2gypsies1
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TechWriter wrote:
Big Katuna wrote:
We travel around the country.

That may be, but owning (not owning) a house affects health, vehicle, and liability insurance.

Most full time RVers I've heard from use specialty RV insurance, like Miller or an equivalent for vehicle and liability insurance, and RVer Health Insurance for medical.

Local insurance agents are generally not well-versed (or versed at all) on the effects of domicile on insurance.


Owning or not owning a house has nothing to do with medical insurance. Also, I've never heard of 'RVer health insurance'. It's the same kind of insurance everyone else uses. What you need to get is a PPO plan, not a HMO, if you travel. Also, South Dakota does not have good insurance for travelers. Period.

It all depends where you're domiciled....where you 'live' even though it's not in a house. Some states are higher than others.
Full-Timed for 16 Years
.... Back in S&B Again
Traveled 8 yr in a 40' 2004 Newmar Dutch Star Motorhome
& 8 yr in a 33' Travel Supreme 5th Wheel

TechWriter
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Big Katuna wrote:
We travel around the country.

That may be, but owning (not owning) a house affects health, vehicle, and liability insurance.

Most full time RVers I've heard from use specialty RV insurance, like Miller or an equivalent for vehicle and liability insurance, and RVer Health Insurance for medical.

Local insurance agents are generally not well-versed (or versed at all) on the effects of domicile on insurance.
2004 - 2010 Part Timer (35’ 2004 National RV Sea Breeze 8341 - Workhorse)
2010 - 2021 Full Timer (41’ 2001 Newmar Mountain Aire 4095 DP - Cummins)
2021 - ??? Part Timer (31’ 2001 National RV Sea View 8311 - Ford)
www.rvSeniorMoments.com
DISH TV for RVs

Pop-Pop_C
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We have Medicare and AARP United healthcare, plan F.
Reside in Tx. . Plan f. Is a little pricy but works any place in the USA.
2013 Winnebago Journey CRV toad one spoiled pup.

Big_Katuna
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We travel around the country.
My Kharma ran over my Dogma.

TechWriter
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Big Katuna wrote:
TechWriter wrote:
Big Katuna wrote:
My best advice is find an independent agent that reps several lines.

My guess is that a typical insurance agent (any type) will know nothing about what a full time RVer needs.

So, again, I'd suggest checking with these guys -- www.rverhealthinsurance.com.


Your guess would wrong in my case. Ours came to our house, saw the RV and knew exactly what we needed. Most insurance reps are trained to the nuances of different types of policies.


If they came to your house, then you're not full timing.
2004 - 2010 Part Timer (35’ 2004 National RV Sea Breeze 8341 - Workhorse)
2010 - 2021 Full Timer (41’ 2001 Newmar Mountain Aire 4095 DP - Cummins)
2021 - ??? Part Timer (31’ 2001 National RV Sea View 8311 - Ford)
www.rvSeniorMoments.com
DISH TV for RVs

Big_Katuna
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TechWriter wrote:
Big Katuna wrote:
My best advice is find an independent agent that reps several lines.

My guess is that a typical insurance agent (any type) will know nothing about what a full time RVer needs.

So, again, I'd suggest checking with these guys -- www.rverhealthinsurance.com.


Your guess would wrong in my case. Ours came to our house, saw the RV and knew exactly what we needed. Most insurance reps are trained to the nuances of different types of policies.
My Kharma ran over my Dogma.

TechWriter
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Big Katuna wrote:
My best advice is find an independent agent that reps several lines.

My guess is that a typical insurance agent (any type) will know nothing about what a full time RVer needs.

So, again, I'd suggest checking with these guys -- www.rverhealthinsurance.com.
2004 - 2010 Part Timer (35’ 2004 National RV Sea Breeze 8341 - Workhorse)
2010 - 2021 Full Timer (41’ 2001 Newmar Mountain Aire 4095 DP - Cummins)
2021 - ??? Part Timer (31’ 2001 National RV Sea View 8311 - Ford)
www.rvSeniorMoments.com
DISH TV for RVs

Big_Katuna
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Post office is not government run. Go to Europe, try their post offices. $1 or higher to mail a letter.

Social Security works fine as does Medicare. We have been self employed for 20 years paying our own medical insurance. The ACA is the first improvement we have seen.

Slightly lower deductible (still too high) with better coverages, lower deductible (still high at $6000).

As far as the government not being able to do anything well, I think of Monty Pythons Life of Brian when they talking about the Romans..

Besides the internet, GPS satellites, jet engines, the interstate system, and the best defense system in history, what else has the government done?


As far as national across state line policies you need a policy from United or Assurant/Cigna.

We have Cigna and we about $1800 mo. At age 62.

My best advice is find an independent agent that reps several lines.
My Kharma ran over my Dogma.

tonymull
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Most of the larger insurers still offer extended networks. Most of the Blue Cross companies link with each other. For me Premera plans offer coverage throughout the northwest and Alaska. We have a great plan for about $600/month each with a low deductible. So much better than the plan we had before ACA with no prescription coverage, a large deductible and a premium that was almost the same. Saving us a lot of $ just to have prescription coverage.

tonymull
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Cobra is designed to be too expensive, they really want you off the plan and out the door. ACA will never be tweaked as long as there is a republican majority in either chamber of congress or enough senators to block legislation. There is no interest in helping the people as long as political points can be scored. ACA has been a great thing for small business owners and self employed. I no longer have to go to Canada to afford my medications. Now I just go to fish.

TechWriter
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tatest wrote:
If you want to travel, you need to find a domicile where you can connect with a provider having a large network. I don't know just what that would be now, since ACA forces individual state coverage in places where national coverage used to be available.

BCBS


tatest wrote:

When two of you get to Medicare, you are going to find your premiums something over $400 a month if you want extensive supplemental coverage and Part D.

My monthly with a supplement & Plan D is about $250.
2004 - 2010 Part Timer (35’ 2004 National RV Sea Breeze 8341 - Workhorse)
2010 - 2021 Full Timer (41’ 2001 Newmar Mountain Aire 4095 DP - Cummins)
2021 - ??? Part Timer (31’ 2001 National RV Sea View 8311 - Ford)
www.rvSeniorMoments.com
DISH TV for RVs

tatest
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Are you eligible for insurance from a prior employer's plan?

We covered the gap between end of employment and Medicare (7 years for me, 8 for my wife). It was a PPO administered for the company by Aetna, "traditional" plan with 20% my share, 50% out of network, very high deductibles and out of pocket caps, but 100% coverage for extensive preventive care (like immunizations and annual checkups). When we were both on it, my premium cost was about $1600 a month, down to $1200 for just her, as much as $2200 when I carried my daughter on the plan.

So about $20,000 a year in premiums, another $2000 to $3000 out of pocket when things were going well. When they weren't, the insurance company came through, paying out about $800,000 over the last three years of my wife's life, but even so my out of pocket medical costs hit $40,000 a couple of years with things the insurance company wouldn't pay, because MD Anderson does not limit their treatment options to only those things insurers consider medically appropriate.

If you want to travel, you need to find a domicile where you can connect with a provider having a large network. I don't know just what that would be now, since ACA forces individual state coverage in places where national coverage used to be available.

If you think $400 a month is expensive, you'll be in for a shock. Only people I know with premiums that low are those for whom someone else is paying the other 50 to 80% of the premium for them. When two of you get to Medicare, you are going to find your premiums something over $400 a month if you want extensive supplemental coverage and Part D.
Tom Test
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