2015 Monaco Dynasty - HORRIFIED!!!

[JimM68]

First article I read in the FMCA magazine that came today. A "road test" (or something) of the first Monaco since they were purchased from Navistar by the parent company of Fleetwood / American Coach

And for the first time in 20 years, a high end Monaco rides on something besides a 8 or 10 airbag roadmaster chassis!

Worse, these fake are calling their American coach freightliner chassis a "roadmaster B series"!

I think I'll keep my Knight, and it's REAL 8 air bag ROADMASTER chassis for as long as I can keep her rolling.

Sorry Allied Recreational Group, you just cannot pass this off as a Monaco.

[mccsix]

And Customer Service!

[MRUSA]

bluwtr49 wrote:
I tend to agree that the chassis used is of minor concern to most MH buyers as long as the ride and handling is good. Heck, look at Newmar that is renowned for there comfort and they are on a Sparten. I think a lot of the negative comments are more from folks that simply resist change than anything else...no offense intended but change is tough to accept.

The new Beaver will also be on a Sparten and I for one can't wait to see them.

Newmar has been dumping Spartan and a couple of years ago went to Freightliner for their Dutchstar and Mountain Aire. I have not heard any complaints from the owners of these new Freightliner coaches.

I traded an 8-airbag Beaver for a 6-airbag Spartan Chassis Entegra. The Entegra handles, rides and maneuvers much better than the Beaver did. It might be a bit unfair to compare the 40' non-tag Beaver to a 45' tag-axle Entegra, but my point is that the single airbags on the Spartan Chassis did not result in any loss of ride or handling vs the dual airbags on the Roadmaster Chassis. To the contrary, it is better in every respect.

I think the success of Monaco will be not based on the chassis, but on things like floorplans, amenities, fit and finish, and the construction of the house, not the chassis.

[et2]

Page 37 might explain some of their thoughts of 8 vs 4 air bags.

http://freightlinerchassis.com/documents/KnowingYourChassisv2-20100324124504000000.pdf

[doc_brown]

bluwtr49 wrote:
Guess I don't understand why a Sparten Chassis would be inferior. The K3 looks like a well engineered unit.

Arn't these in use by several quality MH's like Nemar and County Coach??

Sparten

Country Coach used its own chassis, Dynomax with IFS

[Mr_Mark1]

moisheh wrote:
MM: Most Cummins shops are not factory owned. They may sell and service trailers, fire trucks and more. But most will certainly work on your engine. More than I can say for some Navistar and Cat shops that will NOT work on MH's. Check out this link for Cummins shops that will even do some "house" repairs to your unit.
http://now.cumminspower.com/coachcare

Happy New Year

Moisheh

I have found that there are 'Cummins Coach Care' shops like in Kansas City, MO. They specialize in RV's/motorhomes and I have used them a couple of times making the repairs that I needed (a new heater hose and coolant box) plus, regular maintenance. I planned my trips so that the timing was right to stop at Cummins Central Power in Kansas City, MO.

In Memphis, we have just a regular Cummins shop that gave me a little grief on lubing my Roadmaster chassis.

MM.

[bluwtr49]

I tend to agree that the chassis used is of minor concern to most MH buyers as long as the ride and handling is good. Heck, look at Newmar that is renowned for there comfort and they are on a Sparten. I think a lot of the negative comments are more from folks that simply resist change than anything else...no offense intended but change is tough to accept.

The new Beaver will also be on a Sparten and I for one can't wait to see them.

[bullydogs1]

OK OK maybe I was a bit hasty...I'd like to see what it is about, first hand...may take a ride to Charlotte if I can.

[moisheh]

MM: Most Cummins shops are not factory owned. They may sell and service trailers, fire trucks and more. But most will certainly work on your engine. More than I can say for some Navistar and Cat shops that will NOT work on MH's. Check out this link for Cummins shops that will even do some "house" repairs to your unit.
http://now.cumminspower.com/coachcare

Happy New Year

Moisheh

[Mr_Mark1]

We currently have a Roadmaster Chassis on our coach (noted in sig) and one of my complaints with it is that it's a rough riding chassis. It's smooth as glass on a smooth road and can rattle you pretty good on rough roads.

Another problem that I ran into was at a Cummins shop that said they work on Cummins engines and Spartan chassis's. They reluctantly agreed to lube my Roadmaster chassis. I mean really, how much different are the connections from chassis to chassis. It wasn't like I was having a repair, just getting the chassis lubed.

I don't think I would have a problem with the new chassis on the new Dynasty. I would be more concerned if shops turn it down to do regular maintenance.

MM

[wny_pat1]

fredbon wrote:

mena661 wrote:
I'd be more concerned about overall fit and finish than chassis type. As long as it works, then it's done its job IMO.

X2, Momma don't crawl under the unit, she wants good stuff inside.

Fred

But chassis is all about maintaining that Fit and Finish in like new condition without squeaks and rattles. Momma ain't going to be happy when it starts rattling and squeaking!!!

[mmccwill]

I have a Monaco,42' Camelot -- I`ve had two coaches with Spartin Chassis & inpendent front suppension, & they rode & drove much better than the 10 air bag Roadmaster Chassis that I have now - William Willard

[Corkey05]

mena661 wrote:
Jim, I don't think the majority of their future customers will care. I saw the title and thought it was another major F up but this doesn't seem like a big deal to me. I'd be more concerned about overall fit and finish than chassis type. As long as it works, then it's done its job IMO.

X3

Seems like a lot of complaining about the soup before anyone's had a chance to taste it.

[fredbon]

mena661 wrote:
Jim, I don't think the majority of their future customers will care. I saw the title and thought it was another major F up but this doesn't seem like a big deal to me. I'd be more concerned about overall fit and finish than chassis type. As long as it works, then it's done its job IMO.

X2, Momma don't crawl under the unit, she wants good stuff inside.

Fred

[mena661]

Jim, I don't think the majority of their future customers will care. I saw the title and thought it was another major F up but this doesn't seem like a big deal to me. I'd be more concerned about overall fit and finish than chassis type. As long as it works, then it's done its job IMO.